Photo taken by a civilian spectator shows new recruits as they are about to be received by the senior cadets during the so-called Reception Day that traditionally falls on April Fools Day (April 1). The indoctrination of the plebes on the Honor System informally starts on this day during which they are reminded that, "We, the cadets do not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate among us those who do.". (Photo by Simon/ https://picasaweb.google.com/depoarch)
Due to a 'dramatically' presented grievance that was posted by a Facebook user named Avee Cudia, an Honor Code violation became a banner story in the social media.
The complaint was about the 'injustice' given to her brother whom she said is the Number 2 graduating cadet of the PMA Class 2014.
The story was heart rending. Parang nanonood ako ng Korean novela. He was described as matulungin sa kapwa. Mahirap lang sila. Pinag-initan lang sya.
Then the hordes of FB commenters came in. Dumadami ang mga experts sa legalities. Dumadami ang naaawa. Kasi naman, nagsusumikap na maging Number 2 at na-late lamang ng 2 minutes sa klase, pinatanggal na. Teka, paano na-compute na Nr 2 nga?
Days later, 'angry taxpayers' demanded that the erring cadet be exonerated. Kasalanan daw ni Professor. Dinaya raw ang voting process kasi mayroon daw nag "Not Guilty" vote, a sign of acquittal.
Many more people joined the fray and started questioning the Honor System. Some of them started condemning the PMA and its graduates, claiming that the PMAers later emerged as corrupt and plunderers. Di rin naman daw sinusunod pag nagiging officer na, kaya patawarin na lang ang "Number 2" cadet.
Honor Code vs Conduct
Una kong narinig ang Honor Code noong gabi ng April 1, 1990. Bukambibig agad ito ng aking Squad Leader.
"Plebos, dito sa Academy, marami tayong mga regulasyon. Ang tandaan nyo lang, wag na wag i-violate ang Honor Code dahil di kayo sasantuhin. Wag mag-Lie, mag-Cheat, mag-Steal at mag-Tolerate ng kahit sinong kapwa mo na kadete na nagkasala nito."
Bisaya man ako, napakalinaw sa akin yong sinabi nya. Parehas lang din sa pangangaral ng tatay ko na isang magsasaka, na syang nagturo sa akin paano magtabas ng maisan, mag-araro at mag-benta ng saging at malunggay para sa aking allowance. May drama din ano? Pero yon talaga ang totoo. "All right" yan!
Pero hindi pala ganon ka-simple ang Honor Code. Halos gabi-gabi ay pinapa-recite sa amin ang konsepto nito. Nagbibigay sila ng mga examples ng violations. Bottomline, bawal ang magpalusot. Wag matakot na tanggapin ang consequences ng kasalanan.
Napakahirap naman kasi ang consequences kapag mahatulan ng guilty verdict sa Honor Committee. Una, papiliin kang mag-resign at magiging honorable person dahil tinanggap mo na yong kasalanan. Kung ayaw mo namang mag-resign, i-ostracize ka. Mahirap ang ma-ostracized ng kapwa kadete. You will be considered na walang kwenta. Walang babati sayo. Walang tatabi sayo. Daig mo pa ang may leprosy. In short, wala kang dangal because you violated the Honor Code and insists on rejoining the ranks of those who opted to follow it by heart.
Ang "Palusot"
Napakahirap naman kasi ang consequences kapag mahatulan ng guilty verdict sa Honor Committee. Una, papiliin kang mag-resign at magiging honorable person dahil tinanggap mo na yong kasalanan. Kung ayaw mo namang mag-resign, i-ostracize ka. Mahirap ang ma-ostracized ng kapwa kadete. You will be considered na walang kwenta. Walang babati sayo. Walang tatabi sayo. Daig mo pa ang may leprosy. In short, wala kang dangal because you violated the Honor Code and insists on rejoining the ranks of those who opted to follow it by heart.
Sa kabilang dako, pag-usapan naman natin iyong isang batas na sinusundan namin sa loob ng Academy na kung tatawagin ay 'Conduct'. Dito nakapaloob ang mga pamantayan ng aming behavior bilang kadete na nakasulat sa isang libro na kung tawagin ay Cadet Corps Armed Forces of the Philippines Regulations (CCAFPR).
Ang halimbawa sa mga napakahabang listahan ng mga regulasyon na nakasulat sa CCAFPR ay ang mga sumusunod:
1. Dapat mag-shave bawat formation;
2. Dapat mamalantsa ng uniporme;
3. Dapat mag-martsa at naka-formation kung magpunta ng Duty as a group;
4. Dapat magdala ng plantsado, nakatupi na puting panyo sa lahat na panahon;
5. Dapat tumayo ng matikas (nakabrace up at matuwid) sa formation;
6. Bawal makipag-usap sa formation;
7. Bawal ma-late sa formations at mga duties;
8. Bawal ang mag-maltreat ng mga subordinates;
9. Bawal ang maruming kwarto at lahat ng kagamitan sa loob;
10. Bawal manigarilyo na naka-uniporme outside barracks at kapag nasa publiko.
Naku, I won't enumerate them all mga kapatid. I remembered these conduct regulations because I violated some of them. I sometimes forget to shave. I therefore got demerits which in turn, lowered my grades.
In some occasions, naparusahan din ako ng 'mase-mase' (physical exercises) o kaya ng touring punishment. Ang touring sa militar ay hindi yong tipong ini-enjoy ang magandang tanawin sa Boracay o ang mga lumang building sa loob ng Fort Santiago.
Ang 'touring' sa amin ay yong tipong may bitbit kang riple, naka-full uniform at may combat pack pa! Teka, it was like going on combat patrol! Yeah, sa PMA pa lang nakarami na ako ng patrol.
Kasi naman, kapag nahuli akong mag-violate ng violations sa conduct, umaamin ako sa aking kasalanan. Di ako nagpapalusot na tila ay style bulok na reasoning sa pagpaliwanag sa Delinquency Report explanation. Now, you wonder kung bakit ako nag-Scout Ranger?
Ang 'touring' sa amin ay yong tipong may bitbit kang riple, naka-full uniform at may combat pack pa! Teka, it was like going on combat patrol! Yeah, sa PMA pa lang nakarami na ako ng patrol.
Kasi naman, kapag nahuli akong mag-violate ng violations sa conduct, umaamin ako sa aking kasalanan. Di ako nagpapalusot na tila ay style bulok na reasoning sa pagpaliwanag sa Delinquency Report explanation. Now, you wonder kung bakit ako nag-Scout Ranger?
Na-survive ko yong lahat ng punishments pati yong pampabaha ng pawis na mase-mase (mess to mess o sabihin nating daan-daang ulit na squat thrust) kasi tinanggap ko ang consequences sa aking violations sa Conduct.
I can vividly remember the time when I was reported by the Cadet Guard on Duty during my firstclass year (4th Year).
Ganito nakasulat doon sa aking report:
"Using the telephone for more than 5 minutes".
Eh, kasi naman yong girl friend ko, nagdrama sa akin. Nilalambing ako.
Ang hirap na ngang kumontak sa military lines, 5 minutes lang ang limit. Nakita ko na parang bumibilis ang ikot nong wall clock at papalapit na sa 4 minutes.
Then, tinakot ba naman ako ng aking GF.
"Wag mo muna ako babaan. Di na kita kakausapin!"
Patay kang bata ka. Baka nga naman magtampo at ayaw na akong kausapin. Baka hiwalayan na ako. So, in short, napasobra ako sa time limits ayon sa CCAFP Regulations. Magka-demerit ako.
Pero, inamin ko ang aking kasalanan. Walang palusot. Nag-tsek ako sa mga checklist doon sa DR (Delinquency Report).
"I did commit the offense". Check!
"I did intend to violate regulations." Check!
Pero meron din akong style sa pagpaliwanag sa bahagi ng Explanation. Halos ganito ang linyada ko:
"Sir, I committed the said offense. My girl friend wanted to talk to me longer. I felt as if I was in heaven due to my happiness that I failed to check the time limit for phone calls!"
Napa-smile man ang aking Tac-O sa aking kasutilan, binigyan ako ng demerits.
Oooops! Nagpa-'style' ako sa explanation pero di ako nagpalusot para makaiwas sa kaparusahan! Magkaiba yon ha.
Ang "Palusot"
Ang 'palusot' ay yong tipong baluktutin ang katotohanan. Halimbawa, kung tinanong ka sa surprise inspection during mess formation ng ganito: "Do you have a handkerchief?", ang sagot ay dapat direct answer na ganire: "Yes sir!" (kung meron) at, "No sir!" kung wala kang dala.
Ano naman ang ehemplo ng palusot o quibbling? Iyong tipong sasabihing: "Yes sir!", at later nang madiskubreng wala pala, ang sasabihin ay: "Actually, I have a handkerchief but it is inside my locker sir!"
In that particular case, you will be reported for an honor violation (lying) instead of a simple infraction to the CCAFP Regulations (no handkerchief during inspection).
In that particular case, you will be reported for an honor violation (lying) instead of a simple infraction to the CCAFP Regulations (no handkerchief during inspection).
Alam ko di mo basta ma-gets bakit ka lying doon sa scenario. Ano ang answer? Common sense lang. Saan ka naman nakakakita ng ranks inspection tapos yong ipapa-inspect mong handkerchief as part of the regulation ay itinago mo pala sa locker!
Bakit ba naman kasi merong nagpapalusot? Marami ang possibilities na rason. One, that cadet might be afraid of any punishment. Pwede syang parusahan ng push-up o squat thrusts na actually ay pampalakas din naman. Second, maaari na ayaw nya ng demerits na makakaapekto sa kanyang grades. Kasama kasi ang grade sa 'Conduct' sa overall grade na sya namang basehan sa cadet ranking during graduation. Reminder yan sa mga sobrang grade conscious!
Nagkaroon ng certification ng propesor at 'mysteriously' nai-release ito ng isang matalinghagang nilalang sa isang blogger. Ayon sa isang writer (http://totocausing.blogspot.ae/2014/02/professor-certified-cudia-was-right-in.html) , ito ang nilalaman ng naturang certification:
In the certification signed by Professor Costales, it states:
"I agree and consider that because Cadet CUDIA is under my instruction to wait, and the other cadets still have business with me, it is reasonable enough for him to say that "Our class was dismissed a bit late" (dealing with matter of seconds or a minute particularly 45 seconds to 1 minute and 30 seconds)
"And with concern to OR432 class, I can say it ended on time (1500H)."
Kung ginamit itong ebidensya sa kanyang paglilitis sa Honor Committee, ang tanong, paano naman ito na-release sa labas ng PMA? Aba, bawal yan ilabas Cadet!
Ang proceedings kasi sa Honor Code case ay binabantayan at privileged information lamang ito. Hindi ito basta-basta ma-access. Kaya nga madaling araw ang proceedings dahil ayaw namin na mapahiya ang mga naaakusahan.
Therefore, someone is liable to a grave offense here. Pagtataksil ito. Kung mahuli ang sino mang iyan, maliwanag na mabigat ang kaparusahan.
As expected, merong assessment ang writer at ang mga mambabasa na dahil sinabi ni Professor Costales ang statement na "Our class was dismissed a bit late" (dealing with a matter of seconds or a minute particularly 45 seconds to 1 minute and 30 seconds), bilang patunay daw na hindi nagsisinungaling si Cadet Cudia. The scenario about Cadet Boloy et. al. that I will present below will show you if the good Professor's certification is acceptable to the Tactics Group (and to us who understand the CCAFP Regulations).
I will not judge whether he is indeed lying by using palusot or not, at kung ma-abswelto ba sya dahil sa Certification ni Professor. Bahala na ang Honor Committee doon at yong naatasan na mag-reinvestigate.
Sure ako na hindi magugustuhan ng mga kaibigan ni Cudia ang aking paningin (at nang maraming PMAers na nakakaintindi sa word na quibbling) sa kaso.
However, his friends and sympathizers have freely divulged information that are beneficial to them. Pati mga 'privileged information' na para lang sa Honor Committee at piling PMA officials, isinawalat na nila para makakuha ng simpatiya!
Ngayon, dahil isinawalat ng mga kaanak at kaibigan ang kaso, sila lang ang naririnig na side. Ang statement daw ni Professor Costales ay sapat nang ebidensya.
Maliban doon, kawawa daw sya. Dapat raw patawarin kasi hindi perfect ang Honor System. Kurakot naman daw mga PMAers kaya wag na lang i-discharge si Number 2 cadet. Take note, sila ang nagkalat sa social media tungkol sa kaso na ito.
Maliban doon, kawawa daw sya. Dapat raw patawarin kasi hindi perfect ang Honor System. Kurakot naman daw mga PMAers kaya wag na lang i-discharge si Number 2 cadet. Take note, sila ang nagkalat sa social media tungkol sa kaso na ito.
Ngayon, paano naman kaming nadadamay sa mga mga paratang at pag-alipusta ng mga 'morally upright' na mga kababayan natin sa Social Media?
So far, patak-patak lang ang mga impormasyon na ibinabahagi sa publiko. Kasi naman, internal problem lang sana yon. Hindi dapat hinihiya ang kadete na guilty sa Honor Code violation.
"Magpaliwanag kayong mabuti. Marami naman talagang ungas sa Pabaon Military Academy," hamon ng isang FB commenter.
Paano na lang yan? Masakit sa kalooban naming nagpakahirap na maging matino. Mas marami kami kaysa mga tiwali.
Masakit din sa aming kalooban na pati ang PMA ay sisisihin sa nangyari. Di ko ma-gets bakit naging kasalanan ng PMA as an institution.
Para sa akin, the cadet marcher did a splendid job. He was honest enough to report the unauthorized absence of his mistahs.
Pagsasalarawan ng "grand palusot"
Marami pa rin hanggang sa ngayon ang nalalabuan sa circumstances ng kaso ni Cudia.
Well, ganito na lang mga kaibigan. Kwentuhan ko kayo ng halos kaparehas na mga circumstances sa tunay na pangyayari. Sa interesado na i-verify ang mga documents sa kanyang kaso, gamitin nyo na lang ang legal procedures paano makakuha ng kopya.
Well, ganito na lang mga kaibigan. Kwentuhan ko kayo ng halos kaparehas na mga circumstances sa tunay na pangyayari. Sa interesado na i-verify ang mga documents sa kanyang kaso, gamitin nyo na lang ang legal procedures paano makakuha ng kopya.
Ang isalarawan ko sa inyo sa ibaba ay ang halimbawa ng palusot na kasinungalingan. Ang mga aktor sa aking kwento ay ang mga kadeteng sina Dugomon, Kulapu at Boloy.
Sina Cadet Dugumon, Cadet Kulapu at Cadet Boloy ay miyembro ng Class Section Alpha. Ang klase nila ay 1-1:45 pm. Ayos naman ang classroom instructions, hindi magulo. Walang problema. Magaling ang instructor.
Photo shows an actual classroom instruction in the PMA. The teacher is obliged to dismiss the class when the buzzer is sounded. (Photo obtained from Shirley Carandang)
Pagsapit ng eksaktong 1:45pm, tumunog yong centrally-controlled buzzer na syang hudyat sa Class Marcher na ipa-dismiss ang klase.
"Class Ten-shun!"
Ang sigaw na iyon ang hudyat para tatayo ang lahat ng nasa class room, at sasaludo ang Marcher sa propesor. (Noong aming panahon, pati sibilyan na instructors ay sinasaluduhan)
"Sir, permission for the class to be dismissed sir!"
Normally, saluduhan din sya then magsabi: "You are dismissed!"
So, na-dismiss na ang klase on time. Kailangan nilang lisanin ang classroom kasi maaaring merong gagamit nito na ibang subject at ibang grupo, at kailangan nilang makarating on time sa next class nila!
Paglabas sa classroom, ang Section A ay mag-martsa papunta sa kabilang classroom (maaaring sa parehas na building) para mag-attend sa isa pang classroom instruction.
Humiwalay si Cadet Kulapu, Cadet Dugomon at Cadet Boloy at lumapit sa Propesor.
"Sir, gusto naming makita ang aming grades."
Hindi naman bawal tumingin ng grades sa isang subject kung ito ay tapos nang na-compute ngunit hindi pa na-publish sa bulletin board. Pero, bakit kasi di sila makaantay? Bakit kailangan nilang humiwalay sa formation? Grade-conscious?
Ang sabi ni Propesor: "Kung gusto nyo, doon nyo tingnan sa aking opisina."
So, pumunta sina Kulapu, Dugomon at Boloy para tingnan ang kanilang nakuhang grades.
Samantala, ang ka-Section nila ay nakarating sa labas ng classroom on time at pinapasok sila ng kanilang Professor para sa routine accounting at reporting.
Hinanap ng Class Marcher na si Cadet Matatag ang tatlong mistahs nya. Wala doon sina Kulapu, Dugomon at si Boloy.
Honor bound syang i-report ang katotohanan ayon sa nakita.
Honor bound syang i-report ang katotohanan ayon sa nakita.
"Sir, Philosophy 432 class, 12 present, 3 absent, unaccounted for sir!"
Ang tawag doon ay honest reporting. Dapat i-report ng marcher kung ilan silang nasa klase, at ilan ang absent na unauthorized.
Kung authorized absence, ganito ang sinasabi:
Kung authorized absence, ganito ang sinasabi:
"Sir, Philosophy 432 class, 12 present, 3 hospitalized, accounted for sir!"
Syempre, kapag na-hospital ang kadete na absent, authorized yon at hindi sya pwedeng ma-demerit o maparusahan.
Ang problema, nasa kabilang kwarto lang at tumingin-tingin ng grade! Dahil personal reasons ang dahilan kung bakit sila pumunta sa Professor, hindi yon authorized absence sa paningin ng mga Tactical Officers at maging sa mga mistahs nila na sumunod sa regulasyon.
Dahil alam nila na may next class pa sila, dapat sumama sila sa formation at dapat accounted sila doon sa next class kasi duty namin ang mag-attend ng klase on time! Klaro na ba?
Dahil alam nila na may next class pa sila, dapat sumama sila sa formation at dapat accounted sila doon sa next class kasi duty namin ang mag-attend ng klase on time! Klaro na ba?
Ang Delinquency Report
In short, nagkaroon ng Delinquency Report sina Dugomon, Kulapu at Boloy dahil obligasyon naman ito ng designated Class Marcher na si Cadet Matatag. Good job!
In short, nagkaroon ng Delinquency Report sina Dugomon, Kulapu at Boloy dahil obligasyon naman ito ng designated Class Marcher na si Cadet Matatag. Good job!
After 24 hours, natanggap ng tatlong late na mga kadete ang kanilang Delinquency Report (DR). Ito ay nilalagay normally sa Absence Card sa mismong pintuan ng offender.
Sa harap ng DR ay mababasa ang 'Offense' na halos ganito ang pagkasulat:
"Late from Philo 432 Class for two minutes o/a 15 1402H Jan 2014".
As part of the procedure, sila ay magpaliwanag at ito ay isulat nila sa likod ng DR.
Dapat isulat nila ang katotohanan at hindi magpasikot-sikot at magpapalusot.
Sa explanation ni Cadet Dugomon:
I did commit this offense. I did not intend to violate the regulations.
Sa harap ng DR ay mababasa ang 'Offense' na halos ganito ang pagkasulat:
"Late from Philo 432 Class for two minutes o/a 15 1402H Jan 2014".
As part of the procedure, sila ay magpaliwanag at ito ay isulat nila sa likod ng DR.
Dapat isulat nila ang katotohanan at hindi magpasikot-sikot at magpapalusot.
Sa explanation ni Cadet Dugomon:
I did commit this offense. I did not intend to violate the regulations.
"Sir, I tried to verify our grades at the office of our instructor that is why we were late."
Sa panig naman ni Cadet Kulapu:
I did commit this offense. I did not intend to violate the regulations.
Sa panig naman ni Cadet Kulapu:
I did commit this offense. I did not intend to violate the regulations.
"Sir, I went to the office of my professor to check my grades. I was not able to come to class on time sir".
Sa panig ni Cadet Boloy:
I did commit this offense. I did not intend to violate the regulations.
"Sir, I was dismissed late by my instructor. He required us to stay so we came late for the next class."
Ngayon, ano ang quick analysis mo doon? Yong si Kulapu at Dugomon ay matapang na hinarap ang kasalanan. Inamin nila ang totoo.
Meanwhile, kakaiba si Cadet Boloy. Ayaw nyang aminin ang totoo. Ginawang sangkalan si Professor.
Sa panig ng Tactics Group na syang nangangasiwa sa mga Delinquency Reports, hindi rason na 'inutusan ang kadete ng instructor na mag-antay' at naging dahilan na maging late. Kasi naman, alam namin na kami ang responsable sa aming aksyon. Kung mali ang inutos ng kahit sino man at ito ay aming ikapahamak, pwede naming suwayin ang utos kasi illegal yon.
Dahil sa mga circumstances na nabanggit, nabigyan sila ng kaparusahan na 11 demerits at 13 punishment tours. Naku, malaki din yon. Maapektuhan talaga ang grades nang malaki!
So, ano ginawa ni Cadet Boloy? Sya ay sumulat at nag-appeal.
Ganito sabi nya: "Sir, it was not my fault to be late. Our Professor dimissed us at 1400H (2:00pm) which was also the time for the next class."
Now, sa Honor Code, merong dalawang katanungan:
"Do you intend to deceive?" at "Do you intend to take undue advantage?"
Kung panay "No" ang maisagot mo dito truthfully, you are doing an honorable thing.
Dahil sa kanyang pagpupumilit na ma-revoke ang kanyang demerits, nagpaimbestiga na tuloy dahil bakit kakaiba ang kanyang line of reasoning.
Ikinumpara ang kanyang rason sa dalawa nyang honorable na mistahs na sina Dugumon at Kulapu. In short, nakakita ng probable cause na sya ay posibleng nagsisinungaling. Iyon ang naging bunsod sa pagpatawag ng Honor Committee hearing.
Husgahan mo
Ngayon, ayaw kong husgahan kung si Cadet Boloy ay guilty sa salang pagsisinungaling (Lying) na isang kasalanan sa Honor Code ng mga kadete.
Kayo daw ang humusga gamit ang mga guide questions at data:
1. Totoo bang na-dismiss silang late? Ang official time of dismissal ay yong sabi ng instructor na "Class, dismissed!". Maliban pa dyan, yong 12 nilang mistahs sa Section ay hindi naman na-late sa next class. Si Kulapu at Dugomon ay umamin na late nga sila dahil sa kanilang pagpunta sa Professor para tingnan ang grades. May authority ba ang instructor na harangin o pag-antayin ang kanyang estudyante pagkatapos ng Class dismissal, samantalang alam nyang meron itong next duty?
2. Nagsinungaling ba talaga si Cadet Boloy o hindi?
Iba-iba ang ating family background at 'mundong' ginagalawan. Nakakaapekto ito sa ating paningin.
Sa Honor Committee, absolute kasi ang katotohanan. Walang 'half truths' at 'white lies'.
Sa mga nagkadete at in-iinternalize ito, maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw ang ibig sabihin ng Lying.
Ang mahigpit kasi na pagpapatupad ng Honor Code ay magpapatibay sa pundasyon ng aming pagsasapuso nito once na kami ay sumabak sa real world na napakarami ang mga pagsubok bilang commissioned officer ng AFP.
Para sa akin, ito lang ang aking masasabi: "Gotcha!"
Note: Ang portion ng aking article tungkol kina Cadets Boloy, Dugomon at Kulapu ay based on a true story lang at maaaring mayrong kulang na mga impormasyon. Wala itong personalan. Bato-bato sa langit, ang matamaan, wag magagalit.
I did commit this offense. I did not intend to violate the regulations.
"Sir, I was dismissed late by my instructor. He required us to stay so we came late for the next class."
Ngayon, ano ang quick analysis mo doon? Yong si Kulapu at Dugomon ay matapang na hinarap ang kasalanan. Inamin nila ang totoo.
Meanwhile, kakaiba si Cadet Boloy. Ayaw nyang aminin ang totoo. Ginawang sangkalan si Professor.
Sa panig ng Tactics Group na syang nangangasiwa sa mga Delinquency Reports, hindi rason na 'inutusan ang kadete ng instructor na mag-antay' at naging dahilan na maging late. Kasi naman, alam namin na kami ang responsable sa aming aksyon. Kung mali ang inutos ng kahit sino man at ito ay aming ikapahamak, pwede naming suwayin ang utos kasi illegal yon.
Dahil sa mga circumstances na nabanggit, nabigyan sila ng kaparusahan na 11 demerits at 13 punishment tours. Naku, malaki din yon. Maapektuhan talaga ang grades nang malaki!
So, ano ginawa ni Cadet Boloy? Sya ay sumulat at nag-appeal.
Ganito sabi nya: "Sir, it was not my fault to be late. Our Professor dimissed us at 1400H (2:00pm) which was also the time for the next class."
Now, sa Honor Code, merong dalawang katanungan:
"Do you intend to deceive?" at "Do you intend to take undue advantage?"
Kung panay "No" ang maisagot mo dito truthfully, you are doing an honorable thing.
Dahil sa kanyang pagpupumilit na ma-revoke ang kanyang demerits, nagpaimbestiga na tuloy dahil bakit kakaiba ang kanyang line of reasoning.
Ikinumpara ang kanyang rason sa dalawa nyang honorable na mistahs na sina Dugumon at Kulapu. In short, nakakita ng probable cause na sya ay posibleng nagsisinungaling. Iyon ang naging bunsod sa pagpatawag ng Honor Committee hearing.
Husgahan mo
Ngayon, ayaw kong husgahan kung si Cadet Boloy ay guilty sa salang pagsisinungaling (Lying) na isang kasalanan sa Honor Code ng mga kadete.
Kayo daw ang humusga gamit ang mga guide questions at data:
1. Totoo bang na-dismiss silang late? Ang official time of dismissal ay yong sabi ng instructor na "Class, dismissed!". Maliban pa dyan, yong 12 nilang mistahs sa Section ay hindi naman na-late sa next class. Si Kulapu at Dugomon ay umamin na late nga sila dahil sa kanilang pagpunta sa Professor para tingnan ang grades. May authority ba ang instructor na harangin o pag-antayin ang kanyang estudyante pagkatapos ng Class dismissal, samantalang alam nyang meron itong next duty?
2. Nagsinungaling ba talaga si Cadet Boloy o hindi?
Iba-iba ang ating family background at 'mundong' ginagalawan. Nakakaapekto ito sa ating paningin.
Sa Honor Committee, absolute kasi ang katotohanan. Walang 'half truths' at 'white lies'.
Sa mga nagkadete at in-iinternalize ito, maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw ang ibig sabihin ng Lying.
Ang mahigpit kasi na pagpapatupad ng Honor Code ay magpapatibay sa pundasyon ng aming pagsasapuso nito once na kami ay sumabak sa real world na napakarami ang mga pagsubok bilang commissioned officer ng AFP.
Para sa akin, ito lang ang aking masasabi: "Gotcha!"
Note: Ang portion ng aking article tungkol kina Cadets Boloy, Dugomon at Kulapu ay based on a true story lang at maaaring mayrong kulang na mga impormasyon. Wala itong personalan. Bato-bato sa langit, ang matamaan, wag magagalit.
Should be internal eh? Then what if (hypothetical Sir) this is the case:
ReplyDelete- Mr. Cudia just used wrong words but did not intend to deceive
- Those who voted for his expulsion are more in favor of current #3 in Class of 2014 than Mr. Cudia, for some reason, ex. political patronage, 'utang na loob' culture
- Guilty voters seized upon this opportunity to eliminate Mr. Cudia (oh, sounds like purging in communist world)
It's quite worrisome to me how these should be treated as internal matter only; and why does it seem to me there was never a mention of anything about appeals?
You watch too much conspiracy themed tv and movies.
DeleteMr. Cudia is very smart based on his class standing, so there's a very slim chance that he couldn't find the right words to explain his side of the story. Half truth is equivalent to LYING, there's no "half punishment" for partly violating the honor code, Sir.
DeleteIlagay nyo na lang na si Cadet Cudia ay si Cadet Boloy, what would you say now?
DeleteHalimbawa lang. :-)
Sa Honor Committee trial, ang titingnan ay yong circumstances ng kanyang kaso. Wala silang pakialam kung matalino ka o bobo, o Cadet Baron ka o anak ka ng Hari.
DeleteAng issue dito ay kung NAGPAPALUSOT lang si Cadet Cudia para maiwasan ang demerits at nang hindi naman maapektuhan negatively ang kanyang grades.
Sa kanyang palusot, what would he gain? Good grades. Prestige of that Honor roll.
Well, sa inyong mga kadete na nakakabasa ng aking blog, your cadet ranking would not define you as a leader. Intelligence would not necessarily translate into excellent leadership.
Darating ang panahon na baguhin natin ang sistema ng Senior Lineal List na basehan sa promotions. Dapat ang basehan ay KATINUAN, KAGALINGAN at KATAPATAN sa serbisyo.
I dont care kung matalino ka, patamad tamad ka naman at hindi mapagkatiwalaan sa trabaho. I don't care kung Summa Cum Laude ka at Number 1 sa klase, eh comfort oriented ka naman at ayaw mahirapan sa trabaho kasama ang mga subordinates!
Let us promote merit system sa lahat ng panahon. :-)
Nicely done. Was hearing a lot about this in the news. Salamat sir at nalinaw din. Will be telling stories about Boloy sa mga kaibigan kong masyadong fan ng social media bandwagon.
DeleteKraig, ika nga eh, Veritas Vincit! (Truth Conquers)
DeleteGinawa kasing 'War on Public Opinion' kaya dito rin namin iprisinta ang aming kaisipan tungkol dito sa isyu.
Sinusunog na nila ang PMA, alangan pabayaan naming mga nagmamahal sa institusyong ito?
omg anonymous. you seriously don't know anything. internal nga e. yan ang patakaran ng institution. wag na makialam.
DeleteVery well said and done rangercabunzky..im enlightened now.. as a parent of a PMAyer we are not really oriented deeply regarding Honor Code of the cadets..but as a parent in my own point of view "ONCE WE ALLOWED OUR SONS/DAUGHTERS TO ENTER THE ACADEMY, WE SHOULD AND SHALL OBEY/ACCEPT/ABIDE ALL THE POLICIES, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE ACADEMY NO MATTER WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES MAYBE UNLESS THEIR LIFE IS AT STAKE.."
Deletevery well said sir!
ReplyDeleteyou worry to much. anything you are not familiar with or have not been connected - just stay quiet.
ReplyDelete-cadet redhat
Noong una.. puzzled din ako sa offense ni cudia.. pero para sa akin bakit nakikialam na ang maraming civilian which for me is very wrong.. PMA was already there even before many of the commentors was born.. I believe this matter should be left to PMA to solve and using the media is nothing but a mere PALUSOT.. I'm a brother of a PMAer and I won't be happy if he would be in cudia shoes but I'm sure He would be furious with me if I tried to get sympathy from the media.. Very well said sir.. now I understand this situation...
ReplyDeleteIt is cadet's right to appeal for reinvestigation which they can address to concerned PMA officials. The problem is why use the social media?? To gain attrocious public sympathy? It could have been resolved within the jurisdiction of PMA and no amount of tulfo, karen davila, and taberna could insist the resolution of such case.
ReplyDeleteI was a member of the honor committee. Di basta basta ang selection nito. Sakripisyo tlga maging member? Ikaw ba naman magpuyat gabi gabi para lang mag trabaho. Di ka na nakapag-aral tulad ng ibang kadete. Ito ay bokasyon para sa akin dahil sa kagustuhang mapanatili ang honor system. At kung kami ay bumoto ng guilty or not guilty, yung confidentiality ng case ay andun pa rin. Pag labas ng court room, lahat ng napagusapan ay hanggang dun na lang. Nakakapagtaka bakit may mga lumalabas na case files sa ibang tao na dapat confidential at isinisiwalat sa social media?? Isa pa, utang na loob culture? Political patronage? Ngyon ko lang narinig yan. Ang mga voting members ay galing sa ibat ibang class at random ito sa time ng court hearing. Paano magkakaroon ng conspiracy?
-tagoy, baron 09
Nice one Tagoy!
DeleteWe must do what is right regardless of all the pressures. We must fight for the Honor Code and the PMA.
We must promote excellence kasabay sa Courage, Integrity and Loyalty. Hindi ito tinatalikuran pagkatapos na lisanin ang portals ng academy.
I myself had countless demerits simply because of my own failures and not blaming my magan upperclassmen in the dreaded Hawk Company.
I am a proud Class Goat who made the difference.
Yes sir. Ang positive side ng issue ito ay for us PMA Graduates esp young lieutenants to show some more! Excellence, attitude and honor! Salamat sa encouragement sir, kita ko sa blog na nasa atin din ang kahihinatnan ng Alma Mater at ng bansa!
DeleteLets go Hunters Mabangis.
Hunters lead the way! Mabangis! :-)
Deletei admit i said something abt the issue...but when i realized and read between the lines what was juz sd here.... well, this is the answer to all the questios...
ReplyDeleteGOTCHA!
Sir my two cents.
ReplyDeleteWas there really substantial cause that might have temporarily blinded the cadet that might have led him to take undue advantage or to deceive? Answer. 1.Salutatorian of the class . Grade consciousness. 3. Persistent move for the revocation of his offense.
I don't want to speculate.
DeleteI didn't even care to mention that he had another Honor case. He was able to escape from it and I know why.
Ganon pa man, irrelevant na yong past Honor case nya na yon eh.
We are talking here of a separate report that is Lying.
I don't know what is his motivation for showing 'dishonorable actions' as defined in the Honor Code.
I couldn't agree with you more sir!
ReplyDeleteI believe that as students of the state and as beneficiaries of the taxpayers' money, it is our prime duty to SERVE THE PEOPLE. And by serving the people, it means no cheating, no dishonesty, and no nonsense. It just pains me that there exists people who will do anything for personal gains... I think our university motto "Honor and Excellence" is something that should be said to "Cadet Boloy"... It is "Honor and Excellence" not 'excellence and honor', for me it means that you should strive for honor first and excellence shall follow.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a student of PMA. I'll let others guess where I'm from. I am a student of the state, yes, but not the 'fit and healthy' kind. I'm more of a nerd that wouldn't last a day in their fields or whatever they call it. I prefer my natural habitat surrounded by computers with lines of various programming languages and more than enough power outlets, as opposed to baking in the sun while practicing on how to properly risk my life for people whom I don't know and for people whom couldn't give a damn whether I die or live while protecting the liberty and sovereignty of a country who rulers take us for granted.
Anyway, sorry for my rant there. I just really idolize the UPRIGHT military officials whom I originally wanted to be part of.
You are damn right David Jarvis!
DeleteOh, you know how to shoot straight. You are not using guns and bullets but correct message.
The PMA does not monopolize the concept of the Honor Code. Other schools may have different terminologies but these are all the same in principle. We must emerge as Men of Honor.
No to Palusot!
@David Jarvis
DeleteI, too am from said "not fit and healthy" state university and even there, as scholars of the people, we are made to adhere to higher ethical standards. Cheating is immediate expulsion, for example. What more for a military institution, who will, in the future, hold people's lives in their hands?
Thanks for sharing that David!
DeleteYou are right. Officers and soldiers are entrusted with the lives of people. We are expected to protect the people and the state. What will happen if the military leaders are known cheats and thieves?
David, you may categorize yourself as "not fit and healthy" but you are much more fit than muscled people around here.
DeleteYou are mentally fit and have the capacity to discern what is right and wrong. Thank you for being one! :-)
What's your problem about being grade conscious? Bopols ka siguro kaya ayaw mo sa mga matatalino.
ReplyDeleteI agree that there is nothing wrong about being grade conscious but when you put that above honor to the extend of lying to maintain your position then there is something wrong there. "Honor before Excellence!"
DeleteWala yatang nakakapasok sa academy na bopols sa tingin ko lang.
DeleteIkaw, matalino ka ba? Ano na ba ang nagawa mo na kapakipakinabang sa Pamilya mo? sa Komunidad mo? at sa Bansa mo? Nang-aakusa ka na "Bopol" ang ibang tao, kaibigan tingnan mong mabuti baka ang apat na daliri mo ay nakaturo sa iyo :). Check check din ang sarili pag may time!
Delete- Stephanie
Bopols si Sir Harold? Nakapasa sa napakahirap na PMA Entrance Exam yan at nalusutan ang academic requirements habang pinapahirapan sa military training ng mga kadete. Hindi yan gaya sayo na tipong pasipol sipol habang nag-aaral sa Starbucks at naghihigop ng Cafe Latte! Mga tao nga naman oo. Kapag natatalo sa argumento ay mag name calling. Kapag talo sa reasoning, baka iyon ang Bopols na tinatawag.
Deleteyaan nyu na baka bata lang yan sa computer shop na nakabasa sa history ng browser at napadpad dito para magmura.. kahit anung anggulo nyu tingnan e antanga mag isip ng isang to e..hehe
DeleteI understand your point that there's a difference between explain one's self (when committing mistakes) and outright lying and making excuses. However, what the real problem is how dubious the succeeding actions of the people in authority were. What about the initial account stating that the votes weren't unanimous? That there was one committee member who voted against the dismissal? And does it not bother you that the determination of truthfulness lies on a mere group of people? If the ultimate determining factor here is whether he made an excuse, wouldn't the account of the professor involved be enough to prove (or disprove) the said lie? Why extend to a process where chosen people (possibly with biases, influences, or predisposed motivations from God knows what or who) get to decide? There's something wrong somewhere in the process. What needs to be done is to prove that indeed the decision was made on solid and objective accounts of persons involved and NOT on volatile and subjective interpretations of committee members.
ReplyDelete*between explaining one's self
DeleteYou have a point. Sino ba yang mga Honor Code committee members na yan? Diyos at all knowing lang ang drama?
Delete"Possibly with biases" - speculation
DeleteYou are now claiming them as "All-knowing" for voting Guilty against Honor violator Cadet Cudia?
DeleteAno gusto nyo talaga? Nais nyo bang ang ang Honor Code ay walisin sa PMA? Anong values system ang gusto nyo? Yong pwede magpalusot at yong ayaw tumanggap ng kamalian?
Kahit sa University of the Philippines may "Honor and Excellence". Hindi nila kakalimutan na pairalin ang Katapatan at kasunod noon ay Kagalingan. Pero, meron UPian na nandaya sa World Photo contest at ipinahiya ang buong Filipino nation! Did you blame UP and its graduates? Did you question their time-honored university motto?
I just don't get your level of understanding.
Gentlemen,
DeleteLet Ms Avee Cudia reveal to the public how she was able to get inside information and classified documents as she claimed. Sya ang may pananagutan dyan dahil sya ang nag claim nyan. Kung may mali nga, paimbestigahan natin kung totoo.
Kung tinatanong nyo ay ang procedures, iyon ay sikreto na proceedings kasi ayaw ng CCAFP na mapahiya ang akusado. Sino ba ang nagsiwalat sa impormasyon sa social media? Answer: Ms Avee Cudia.
Pero, I would like to remind you that everything gets clearer now: Cadet Cudia lied and tried to evade being slapped 11 demerits. Why? I don't really know. Clue: He wants the top spot in the cadet ranking. Nagclaim pa nga na Number 2 sya eh nagtatanong pa nga kung ano mga grades sa mga subjects ng 4th year, 2nd sem subjects, alam na agad nya?
Di ko mabasa kung ano naisip nya. Sya dapat magpaliwanag.
You're missing the point. Having values as establishing principles isn't bad, in fact most institutions go back to these values from time to time, hence, having them as moral compass doesn't bother me at all. What I was pointing out as flawed is how secretive this due process can be and how it seems to appear like everything and anything done by the committee is irrevocably correct. I don't buy your reason that nothing is divulged because they don't want to humiliate the person. The dismissal alone is already a humiliation, the lack of a narrative to back that up and people taunting it just because the institution decides to go secretive is even more degrading. Your concern is that the person being tried might be put to shame, but obviously in this case, the person does not care. Does the person not deserve to know how everything was done which led to his demise? So when a mother who has given up things to see her son reach his dreams finds out he no longer is able to do so, does the mother not have a right to be informed fully and comprehensively of what took place just because ayaw niyong may mapahiya?
DeleteTo cut the story short: Walang masama sa pagkakaroon ng honor code. Ang pagkakaroon ng honor code committee, pagtrato sa kanila bilang mga perpektong hurado, at pagpataw ng mas mabigat ng halaga sa personal na hatol ng komite kumpara sa mismong salaysay ng propesor, at higit sa lahat ang paglihim sa kung paano nabuo ang desisyon -- ALL OF THESE DESERVE TO BE SCRAPPED FROM A SYSTEM.
Lying by omission is still dishonesty. If you value the honor code too much, then why not reveal everything knowing that the Code has been guiding the jury anyway?
Sorry, unless probably if you will join the Cadet Corps Armed Forces of the Philippines as a cadet, you will never fully understand why the Honor System is designed that way.
DeleteTeka, may nag PM sa akin na meron din daw na-expel sa UP because of cheating! Wala silang Honor System doon. Kapag mahuli ka sa akto ng iyong classmate o ng Professor, meron ka din palang kalagyan. At, wala silang trial ha. Paano yong ganon?
Abolishing the Honor System is not ours to make. Gumana na iyang sistema since time immemorial kung kelan yan sinimulan.
Dahil sa Honor Code na aming pinaninindigan, maaasahan mo kaming panindigan yong aming sinumpaan sa Oath of a Filipino Soldier na "I will die for this country!" kung kinakailangan para gawin ang aming mandato (Protect the people and the state).
Kami lang ang pinapagpanumpa na mamatay para sa bayan, dahil kami ay mga Sundalo.
Kaya naman po, intindihin nyo na lang na kakaiba ang aming mga sistema sa pagpapairal ng disiplina. Wag nyong ipilit ang pang-sibilyan na sistema dahil magkawindang-windang ang aming military training, at di trustworthy and military personnel. In the end, kawawa naman ang Pilipinas.
Ganon pa man, salamat na marami sa mga suhestiyon. Pinapakinggan din naman namin at sinusuri. :-)
napanood ko lahat ng bourne series and i even read a lot of tom clancy books..pero di naman ako naniniwala sa mga haka haka lang..lol
Deletelets based everything on facts not on "tamang hinala" saka di naman dapat tayu maniwala sa kwentong barbero lang. well become stagnant if ganyan tayu mag isip
UP has a Student Disciplinary Tribunal. May rules, hearings/trials din. Hindi lang basta-basta dinedesisyunan. Here's a reference po: http://ovcsa.upd.edu.ph/sdt.htm
DeleteRequest permission to repost this in my blog sir... SAMBI '99 sir.
ReplyDeletehttp://supportpma.blogspot.com
No problem Buddy! Veritas Vincit! (Truth Conquers).
Deletevery well said, sir! unta basahon ug tarong sa mga tao nga pataka lang ug post ug bisan unsa bisan ug wa sila masayod sa nahitabo. (Note: I am not a PMAer.)
ReplyDeleteyou are right sir kaya nga po merong rules para doon masusubok at makikilala ung isng cadete or sa isng normal na tao lng kong meron tlga syang panindigan at pag pahalaga kng paanu nya kilalanin ang tinatawag na "RULES"mahalaga po un lalo na po sa kagaya ninyong leaders dahil sa aking kaalaman kayo ang magdadala sa trupa sa tamang daan para di sila mapahamak pero kng lahat ng officer and leaders ay maging kagaya ni boloy in real life baka sa kanyang pamumuno merong trupang laging mapahamak dahil lagi nyang gawing "palusot" ang kanyang ginawang kasinungalingan...
ReplyDeleteKung 'Palusot' system ang iiral sa AFP, baka naman ay magsipaglayasan ang mga sundalong naatasan na bantayan ang ating teritoryo sa Kalayaan Island Group, at gamitin ang lahat na palusot para hindi maparusahan.
DeleteBawal ang Palusot. Panindigan natin ang Honor Code!
Sa mga nagpupumilit na ipa-abswelto si Cadet Cudia, ito ang sagutin nyo:
ReplyDelete1. Paano na lang pala yong 12 na mistahs nila sa Section na nakarating sa tamang oras? Non-sense na lang ba yong sumunod sila sa regulasyon?
2. Paano na lang yong 2 niyang mistah na kasabay na na late? Umamin sila at nagserve ng punishments at bumaba ang cadet ranking. Ipabago nyo rin ang grades at ranking nila? Mag sorry kayo at nag tour sila?
3. Kung i-tolerate na lang ng PMA ang 'Palusot' system, di kayo magreklamo kung sangkaterbang sinungaling ang lalabas na mga opisyal?
4. Ireklamo nyo rin ba ang itinuturong Honor sa iba't ibang schools, universities at mga religious institutions? I-push nyo rin ang palusot system?
Nagtatanong lang. Kayo lang laging nagtatanong eh.
Sir, maari ba akong bumato ng mga katanungan saiyo? Ako po ay masugid mong taga basa ng iyong mga panulat. Ako po ay sang ayon na kung si Cudia nga ay lumabag sa kanilang Honor System, nararapat lamang na patawan siya ng kaukulang parusa. Subalit may konti akong pagkabahala base sa aking mga nababasa patungkol sa isyung ito. Totoo ba na yung 8-1 ay naging 9-0? (Malamang di ninyo alam kung alam nyo man di nyo rin sasabihin kasi confidential) Halimbawa na lng natin na yun nga ay totoo, anyare? Yun ay hayagan ding pandaraya at kailangang matanggal din yung siyam na kadete, hindi po ba? Sa ganang akin, napakaganda ng inyong Honor System, subalit kung iyon ay totoo (8-1 to 9-0), nabababoy at nawawalan ito ng saysay. Hindi kasi imposible na maari ka ngang pagkaisahan.
DeleteAng sinabing 8-1 vote yon na naging 9-0 ay alegasyon ni Ms Avee Cudia.
DeleteI am personally challenging her to prove that claim. name that person who voted 'Not guilty'.
As I said earlier many times over, the proceedings are held private. Only the members of the Honor Committee know the details and they are also entrusted with all the documents. They are not supposed to discuss this in public because it will do more harm to the accused. Ayaw ng PMA na mapahiya ang akusado kaya nga pinapag-resign na lang instead na ma-ostracize. Kung nag-resign sana sya, honorable discharge yon at walang bahid ang kanyang records kapag mag-apply sya ng trabaho o mag-aral sa labas. What happened after Ms Avee Cudia exposed the incident to FB? The public has learned that Cadet Cudia is an honor violator!
She must explain what is her basis for such accusation.
I understand that it was among the issues resolved during the reinvestigation ordered by CSAFP.
I should not be the one nor my fellow PMAers who must explain about this allegation. Si Ms Avee Cudia ang singilin nyo kasi sa kanya nagsimula ang claim na yan. Siguraduhin ko sayo na kapag isapubliko ang mga dokumento ng kanyang kaso, mas lalong mapahiya si Cadet Cudia. Kayo rin...
Mukha ayaw sagutin bakit naging 9-0 yung 8-1
DeleteI think reading the blog, as far as Sir Rangercabunzky is concern it was a unanimous decision. If the sister claim otherwise, then let her prove the merit of her claim. Maski ako na si anonymous pwedeng kong sabihin na ang decision ay 1-8 in favor of the cadet. Yun nga lang hugot sa hangin lang yung statement ko. kung di maglalabas ng ebidensya ang kapatid e di hugot din sa hangin ang statement nya diba?
DeleteAng maliwanag sa aking simpleng pagiisip ..."Hoy sinungaling na Cudia magpakalalaki ka!"
Di natin alam kung ano nangyari sa loob, Kung walang kasalanan may karapatan ka na ipaglaban mo to, it happens na umabot sa media for public symphaty. Baka na observe ni Cudia pinag tulungan xa dyan sa loob ano laban nya dyan? Mag pa dismissed ka na lng ba if wala ka talagang kasalanan to remain your honor? Maisip mo pa kaya na honorable ka pa sa sarili mo di man lang napakinggan ang panig mo? Wala kang lusot dyan eh kung napag initan ka tas tanggalinka wala kang magagawa kasi pag isa publiko mo dagdag nanaman ang kaso kc labag sa code. I don't want to think negative from the side of PMA sana malutas nyo yan patas.
ReplyDeleteNapag-initan ang peg?
DeleteIto sagutin mo base don sa aking narrative:
Pinilit ba si Cudia at 2 nyang kasamahan na tumingin ng grades instead na sumama sa formation papunta sa next duty?
Pinilit ba syang magsinungaling sa kanyang written explanation?
Pinilit ba syang magsinungaling uli sa kanyang written appeal?
Kung ang sagot sa lahat ng yaong katanungan ay 'YES', sya nga ay pinagkaisahan at pinag-initan.
Wag sobrahan manood ng conspiracy movies kagaya ng Bourne Identity! :-)
Maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw, sir! May I share ur blog, sir? Former Cl '04. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteDarwin, please feel free to share them. :-)
DeleteSir Harold... pashare..very well said
DeleteLol. Sino ba naman nagpumilit kay Cudia na pumasok sa PMA? Lumuhod ba ang admin ng PMA para mag enroll sya? Wala naman sigurong oumilit sa kanya na pumasok sa PMA so dapat matuto sya sumunod ng rules and traditions ng pinasukan nya. Anong gusto ng kapatid nya? Na baguhin ng PMA ang standards il,a para sa kapatid nya? Ano sya? Dyos? Makapangyarihan? O sadyang makapal ang mukha? Kung di nya kaya panindigan ang paniniwala ng kanyang pinasukan, d na lang sana sya nag enroll. I am not a cadet and not even in my wildest dreams inisip ko na maging cadet sa PMA kasi alam ko na di ko makakayanan sumunod sa mga batas at tradisyon nila. PMA is ONLY for the dedicated few. Kaya kung di mo kaya maging cadet, wala naman nagpupumilit sayo Tsong!! Oversensationalizing the issue in social media and making it a hot topic on national television is another sign that he is not fit to be a cadet.
ReplyDelete-nurse
Para sakin, tapos na! Tanggalin na yan si Cudia, lumabag eh. Pero kung totoo yung 8-1 to 9-0, aba'y kailangang may managot din dyan, pandaraya yan di ba? at bawal yun sa Honor Sytem. At kung totoo nga, tila yata may mali sa system na kailangang ayusin.
ReplyDeleteSince day 1 of cadetship alam na nila ang kaparusahan sa lahat ng violations.
ReplyDeleteKung palusot ang kaso ni Cudia. Palusot din ang ginawa ni Ave Cudia through social media which cannot actually help his brother's case. Umabot na sa ganitong estado ang gulo, I doubt kung ma reverse pa ang decision.
One violation is enough two is two much!
thanks sir..dami ko natutunan dito.. no offense sa maka cudia.. paano mu nga naman MAPAGKATIWALAAN ang isang tao lalo na kung sundalo kung NAGPAPALUSOT/SINUNGALING. paano na pag dumating ang punto na masusubukan ang kanilang katapatan/loyalty sa bayan? paano pag pinagkatiwalaan mu ng buo e di mu alam e ibinenta ka na pala sa kalaban..tama para san pa ang papalusot? :D
ReplyDeleteAng gusto kasi naming opisyal ay yong may paninindigan kaya absolute truth lang ang itinuturo sa PMA.
DeleteGusto namin ang mga opisyal na may integridad at matapang physically at morally dahil napakarami ang mga hamon sa buhay kapag nasa active service.
Ayaw namin yong mga opisyal na kagaya nito:
"Men, attack! I will follow you!"
"Men, retreat! Follow me!"
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ReplyDeleteKuya Toto Causing,
DeleteYou removed the content of your message but I read it in full.
No problem with our differing opinions.
As I said, our perspective on things are affected by many factors (our location, environment, training, etc).
Thank you for being polite and respectful to a fellow blogger.
I also admire you for presenting it 'academically' and not just another non-sense rants like we normally read in social media.
If you happen to be in Manila, the doors to my office are always open for you.
All the best,
Lt Col Harold M Cabunoc
Commander, 7th Civil Relations Group, CRSAFP
Camp Emilio Aguinaldo, Quezon City
Mr. Ranger Cabunzky,
ReplyDeleteGood evening.
First I want to extend my profound thanks to you for sacrificing your life to serve our country and people, including me.
The best I could offer in return is to salute you.
Now I state my concern.
Check if you are violating the Honor Code's and Honor Committee's secrecy indirectly. The stories you are telling may have been the true story but you were just using pseudonyms.
Of course, I can sense from your story that you were not telling all of the facts although your note at the bottom of your blog states that what you wrote was just a portion of a true story.
Nevertheless, please feel comfortable. I am not against the Honor Code. In fact, I love it. What I am criticizing is the procedure in implementing the same if there is an Honor Code violation case.
Now, if your judgment upon this hypothetical facts (although I do not believe that this is hypothetical) is that Mr. Boloy lied, mine is otherwise.
You do not have the monopoly of opinion. Others have the right to make their opinions, too. And on my part, I am sorry to say that my opinion is that there is no lying here.
Lying has elements: (a) the person made statements; (b) the statements are false; (c) the person knew the falsity.
But after a statement is made, there is an obligation on the part of the prober and a judge to clarify whether the statement made was an opinion of the speaker or was his version of the ultimate facts.
And if turns out as a mere opinion of the totality of the circumstances involved, then it cannot be adjudged as lying. This is because there is no such a thing as a false opinion. Only claim of facts can be false. Opinions can only be correct or incorrect, they can never be false.
Now, did it occur to your mind that when Boloy said he "was dismissed late" it may (take note of the word "may") be his opinion of the totality of the circumstances. So that it must be inquired into whether Boloy was stating a fact or an opinion. Many times, even the most intelligent guy could not come up with accurate statements because they tend to state a shortcut or tend to generalize. Because of this reality, cross-examinations were invented in court for the purpose of clarifying from the witness what did he or she meant in saying those statements under consideration, whether it was a mere opinion, a general conclusion, or a statement of fact.
So that if I were to be the interviewer, I should ask Cadet Boloy to explain what he meant when he said he was dismissed late by his instructor. The word "dismissed" alone is somewhat vague as to what did it mean. Did it mean actual dismissal from the room? Or actual dismissal after he was finally told to go. And if the Honor Committee did not extend beyond the face of the phrase "was dismissed late," then there is a problem that may mean there was also an ill-motive or reckless negligence or ignorance on the part of the judges of the committee. The fairest thing to do is GET TO THE ULTIMATE FACTS, not stay on statements that may have been inferences from the basic facts.
Anyway, my only point here is that to my mind the judgment is incorrect. And I expect, too, that to the mind of others that judgement is correct.
And if we differ in opinions on the soundness, the least we can expect is to respect my opinion as I respect yours, too, although I may not agree with it.
By the way, thank you for making a special mention of my blog.
Again, I salute you, Sir Ronald. Rest assured, I fully support the PMA. Many of my relatives also came from that revered institution.
Respectfully and patriotically yours,
Berteni "Toto" Cataluña Causing
Bro,
DeleteAllow me to reiterate some of my thoughts on this sensitive matter based on the issues that you raised.
1. "Check if you are violating the Honor Code's and Honor Committee's secrecy indirectly.---It was not me who released classified documents to the public. That cadet has more explaining to do. You know him, right? You don't need to answer me.
2. "Lying has elements: (a) the person made statements; (b) the statements are false; (c) the person knew the falsity".---This is also true but in the Honor Code, we are taught not to use technicalities. We are not allowed to quibble. We are required to answer directly. We are told to base our actions on two basic questions: Am I trying to deceive? Am I trying to take undue advantage? His mistahs who were also late, accepted their offense as honorable persons. He was trying to be different. He is intelligent anyway. The problem is bawal ang palusot sa Honor Code. By the way, we can use the same principles you presented. He must ask himself: Did I make a false statement? Did I know that it was false?
3. "So that if I were to be the interviewer, I should ask Cadet Boloy to explain what he meant when he said he was dismissed late by his instructor. The word "dismissed" alone is somewhat vague as to what did it mean. Did it mean actual dismissal from the room? Or actual dismissal after he was finally told to go"--------Every cadet, especially an academically-gifted guy like Cadet Cudia who had stayed for almost 4 years inside the PMA, knows what 'dismissal' means. Every day, we go to formations and the word "Dismissed!" is a daily routine. So, when he said that he was 'dismissed a bit late' in his Delinquency Report, he twisted the fact that they were already DISMISSED as a class on time.
Again, as I said in my post. It is the duty of the Honor Committee to discern all these.
I was forced to present this story about Cadet Boloy when the social media world was flooded with 'half-truths' and 'lies'. Our Honor Committee and our cadets don't have a voice. They couldn't explain their side.
The act of Ms Avee Cudia led to the 'burning' of PMA. I could not tolerate seeing my beloved Alma Mater being razed to the ground. I know some of your relatives who graduated there would feel the same (I hope so).
I love PMA. It made me of what I am today. I am also proud of the Honor Code because it made me a better person, a Man of Honor. I am not a perfect person and I am not a saint but I am trying my best to make the difference and be of service to others.
Best,
Lt Col Harold Cabunoc a.k.a. Ranger Cabunzky
Sir Ranger Cabunzky,
DeleteFirst, I am asking for forgiveness because I misread your name as Ronald and not Harold. My vision must be the culprit while I was trying to decipher your name on that tiny prints on your profile photo. Actually, the reason I deleted the first message was that name. First, I did not realize you had a profile photo at the top right corner. After I clicked on the "publish" button, I saw you had a profile photo. So I thought of deleting the first post to reflect your real name, which effort turned out to be a failure. I hope you were not offended with the wrong name I wrote.
Second, I admire your gentleman act of confronting the issues. I was amazed that a man of steel like you knows how to act in the marketplace of ideas. My guess is you value freedom of expression as precious as I do that there is no other way to face insults or hate words but more words.
Third, I feel honored by your invitation to visit your office. Sure, I will try my luck for an unannounced visit once my professional obligations are done and I could get some time.
Fourth, I pray for you, your colleagues on the field and your NCOs who continuously gamble your lives in the name of our country and people.
Fifth, I
Happy Freedom Day.
Patriotically,
Berteni "Toto" Cataluña Causing
Bro,
DeleteI am not offended in any way by the wrong name. It was unintentional anyway.
I am not very particular of military ranks or formalities unless we are in a formal military ceremonies or functions.
Anyone can call me by my first name, my blogger's name (Ranger Cabunzky) or my true name HAROLD. I would like to thank my parents for giving me that name. I don't know if they had 'hidden intents' for selecting that name. You might want to google Harold in 'Baby Names'. :-)
We are in a democracy. Soldiers are mandated to protect people's right to express themselves freely. That is why I try my best to listen to people and get their opinions, ideas and sentiments. This is my way of studying our society and how I can effectively interact with our people.
I felt sorry for being frank and straight forward to those who present stupid ideas without really trying to hear our side. I am also hurt by the invectives and baseless accusations, also the name-calling by 'Anonymous' people who take no responsibility.
I will fight for my own dignity and honor. I will fight for my Academy which molded me as a leader.
To a gentleman like you, I am standing ramrod straight to render my salute.
All the best,
Ranger C
So the public may know...
ReplyDeletecudia is no 2 in class... is he stupid?
ReplyDeleteIt was only his sister who declared that he was indeed 'Number 2' in class. Anyare?
DeleteDi pa nga natatapos ang computation ng final exams, nalalaman na niya?
Well, it is not the issue. Did he lie when he said, "My instructor dismissed me a bit late?"
Now I understand na. Thanks for this.
ReplyDeleteEnough is enough! Sir Cudia please use your remaining honor (If there is still any left) and be courageous enough to face the consequences of your behavior and accept the outcome of your actions! You have created enough mess here... It is time sir that you clean up your act and move on! Stop twisting the facts around to gain public sympathy and further your "own" cause.
ReplyDeleteNow to the public...can we go back and address more relevant issues like the Napoles case? Rice cartel? Progress on Yolanda's rehabilitation.......etc.
Psssst. Relax!
DeleteAs I understand, it was the sister of Cadet Cudia who started these brouhaha in the social media. I have not even heard of him speak about this case.
While there are questions left unanswered, people will keep pestering us with more questions (including irrelevant questions).
Dahil si Ms Avee Cudia naman nag disclose sa kanyang post na mayroong Honor Committee member na nag-vote ng 'Not Guilty', let her prove it. Let her name that Cadet! It is plain and simple!
Once that is done, we will have this cadet investigated. We will check the documents if indeed, it is true that he voted 'Not Guilty' and it was 8-1 as alleged.
Pwede ba naman yon na magbato sila ng imaginary offense ng Honor Committee then bulabugin nila ang mismong committee para lumabas sa publiko? That is unfair.
Paano na lang kung may mag-akusa sa kanilang pamilya ng kung anu-ano, ganon din ang kanilang maramdaman. Sabihin din nila na 'it is unfair".
Relax lang po ha. :-)
Dapat hanggang paglabas ng PMA ganun pa rin tanggal sa serbisyo. Kapag nambabae tanggal pagsisinungaling din un ang hirap sa PMA lng sumusunod ng matino paglabas wala na.
ReplyDeleteAs I may recall some years ago, a PMA graduate was sent home from Fort Benning due to stealing. I was just wondering how the institution dealt with him? There is no question that Lt. has brought shame and embarrassment not just to the PMA and the military organization in general, but
ReplyDeletealso to the country.
sir, that guy was investigated after he was sent back in the country. the investigation was not done by the academy or the Honor Committee since he was already assigned to Philippine Army. he was court-martialed for that sir.
DeleteActive officers are not under the jurisdiction of PMA. In case you missed it, the Honor System is applied for the cadets. Every officer is expected to live by the Honor Code without the need of an Honor System.
DeleteWhen we graduate, we are subjected to a little bit different system. We have the Military Justice System which is almost similar to that one you see outside. We also have military courts with lawyers.
So, he faced the court martial and was meted a punishment. His ranking in the lineal list was lowered. He was advised to reform and be responsible.
He later became one of the heroes of Zamboanga during the attack of Misuari's men there in September 2013.
Thanks for the replies, I've lost tracked of the news since then.
DeleteIf caught violating the Honor Code as a Cadet you are expelled or ostracized, and yet if you are caught doing the same after the PMA you only get demoted and still continue with your career? LOL.
DeleteAnd I ask, which is the heavier punishment, lying about being late, or shoplifting while representing your country abroad? Holy cow.
What's the difference between doing it inside the PMA and outside the PMA which makes the punishment "lighter" when you are doing it outside? It doesn't make logical sense.
Ay, naku. Bakit magkakaiba ang Cadet at Commissioned Officer e kaya nga naging Cadet para maging Commissioned Officer, tapos sasabihin mo ngayon na magkaiba daw.
DeleteThe bigger question is, why are you reluctant to see the same kind of punishment being meted on a Cadet to be meted to a Commissioned Officer? Anong masama if CORRUPT Commissioned Officers are removed from the AFP and ostracized also by their PMA class?
Ang punto rito, Ranger: Kapag Cadet tanggal agad, tapos kapag Commissioned Officer making more grievous offenses e mas lesser ang punishment? Again, it doesn't make sense.
agree ako dito... ipaliwanag mo Ranger...
Delete"Dapat hanggang paglabas ng PMA ganun pa rin tanggal sa serbisyo. Kapag nambabae tanggal pagsisinungaling din un ang hirap sa PMA lng sumusunod ng matino paglabas wala na."
ReplyDelete@ anonymous
even if you are already in the service and outside the academy, if you are found guilty of womanizing when you are in fact married, for sure you will be separated from the service. it is a violation of Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards for Public Officials and Employees (Republic Act No. 6713). the AFP is not excused from that law...
Mga Sir/Ma'am, the truth is you are not the same level of intellect to Cadet Caudia. The word "Common Sense"?Obviously and it's not mistake to tell what happened.He was asked to stay a bit longer inorder to see His grades.PMA'er Yes Sir I Follow!!!Bakit mo nmn susuwayin ng utos ng teacher mo?Mali ba ang teacher mo?Then here comes the note.Why are you late?Common Sense po Sir/Ma'am He was dismissed late by His teacher due to important matter.Masama ba maging grade conscious?Of course not!Bakit mo susuwayin ang utos ng teacher mo mali ba ang itinuturo sa mga cadet?Of course not!Therefore, I conclude you don't understand what is meant by Cadet Caudia. And it is stated above with the certification of the Professor involve which is basically true. Don't judge a book by its cover, in court it is not an exact SCIENCE which you can prove ultimately.
ReplyDeleteThe point here is that excelling academically is just one of the many competencies in PMA. Meron pang iba tulad ng values and character formation, discpline, leadership values, honor. These separates PMA from other universities. Kung top2 lng habol ng isang cadet na nakalimutan na nya ang honor at, iba pang aspeto ng training, dapat pumasok na lng sya sa ibang unibersidad. Kaya yung sinasabi na "grade conscious" okay lang? Take this as a point: you may be the BEST but you may not be GOOD. Matalino ka nga, but you are not good because you lose courage and balls to say the truth out of your desire to be the BEST!! Mas pipiliin ko pang maging honorable kaysa matalino. Dahil ang talino is a continuing process. Ang character ng isang tao ay simula pagkabata pa yan nakuha.
DeleteKaya nga maraming buwayang politiko kasi masyadong matalino pero walang "HONOR". Kung yan ang gusto nating tularan na maging future ng ating AFP then go ahead i-reinstate natin si Cudia. mag pasalamat na lang tayo na may mga institusyon pa rin tayo na nagpapahalaga sa value ng Honor at Integrity!
DeleteMy salute sir!
In military service, there is what we do call accountability check; this check is very important to make sure that men and women should be in place at a certain time and event. This practice saved lives, especially during wars. We also have what we call chain of command, and legal orders. Though the instructor is an authority in the institution, his part o the mission ended when the buzzer rang. The next class is the priority, and that mission must be accomplished. Tacking personal business during a mission is a no-no.
ReplyDeleteThese are the kind of training that we need to discipline and prepare for war. This kind of critical thinking is absent among common people who are not tasked to take a bullet for someone in times of war. In military life, the core values save lives. Though a few graduates prefer to save their own hides than the majority of the people, that is beyond this issue.
The issue here is all about semantics, and semantics got the cadet because this has no room in this four pillars. YOu do not "throw the professor under the bus" as we say in english, to save your skin. Tell the truth, and let if speak for itself. That is what you do as a soldier.
The fate of Cudia should be left to the institution from here on; may the public accept although the thinking of men and women about honor code and core values are in line with the civilian because they too have a heart like everyone else; the circumstances of war and death is not always for the untrained to understand, and that the public needs to accept such.
Thank you. May this hiccup bring in the awakening that though we have men and women of integrity in the service, there is more work to do. There cannot be double standards..
From my common sense analysis... Kanino bang choice na tumingin ng grade, kay prof ba o kay Cudia? Sino ang nag decide na tingnan ang grade, kay prof ba o kay Cudia? Sino ba ang may mas malaking pakinabang na makita ang grade in advance, si prof ba o si Cudia? So bakit uutusan at pipilitin ni Prof si Cudia na tingnan ang grade nya? As stated "He was ask to stay a bit longer" but was he force? i don't think so. He could have scheduled another time to see his grades or he could have just waited for the official announcement of his school. If he has already done his best whatever grade he gets should suffice. I am not judging the book here by its cover I am simply stating my conclusion base sa mga nabasa kong pro at anti Cudia statements here and in other blogs.
ReplyDeleteI think one thing is glaring sa pro-Cudia camp is that they are using technicalicalities (mincing with words) to justify their conclusion.
It's true and I am glad na hindi kami ka "Level ng Intellect" ni Cudia kasi ako kahit simple minded lang alam ko pa rin ang tama sa mali. I agree with the statements of Ltc Cabunoc, anonymous, at ng Alumni ng " not fit and healthy" State University that honor should be placed higher than the pursuit of excellence...no If and But!
Mula sa opinyon ng isang simpleng Dugong Berde! Good Day Sir/Mam.
There are several problems with the so-called "Honor Code" as it is now. First of all, how can there be "Honor" when there is no transparency? How do we know that the Cudia was not ganged upon by his peers for one reason or another in a form of "Organized Bullying"?
ReplyDeleteThe next problem is that such Honor Code does not have any practical applications outside of the school, that is why we have corrupt PMA Alumni like Ligot and Garcia.
Third is that how come a cadet is ostracized simply for lying when nothing is done by the same PMA Alumni on WORST offenders like Ligot and Garcia? It doesn't make sense for a kid to suffer while worst people get off scot free.
I understand your lack of knowledge about the military organization and its rich traditions, rhk111.
DeleteBut, your speculation that the action of the Honor Committee is 'Organized Bullying' is absurd in the truest sense of the word. You even failed to know that it is composed of cadets from all classes, including Cadet Cudia's juniors.
A junior cadet bullying a senior cadet? Hmmm.
He would be ostracized if he insists in rejoining the cadet corps and the system that governs it, the Honor System. We all know this consequence for violating the code.
Your idea that the code has no practical application outside the the school is an indication of your lack of wisdom. How come it is not applicable? So, you mean that you are a liar, a cheater and a thief? Kahit walang Honor System sa labas, meron kang 10 Commandments kung Katoliko ka, may GMRC ka at may Code of Ethics ka baga kung nasa gobyerno ka.
You are just one of the trolls. I am not learning from you except foolish ideas.
Rkh111, i do respect your oponion. The true honor of a man is best shown when no one is seeing. So dont link transparency there. Second, when a person talks in a democratic space like this one, he uses facts and critical-thinking in order to allow a healthy discussion of the matter. When i read your opinion, it is just but similar to the rants of the public. In the absence of facts or say knowledge of the matter, the tendency is you wrangle or fight. Third, you mentioned of honor code without practical application outside. The infractions of the few do not speak the whole PMA alumni. Lastly, you seem to be problematic of the things you do not know or you havent experience.
DeleteHow can it be "absurd" when again there is no transparency? What, you are just going to take the word of the Junior Cadets? I think you assume too much, Ranger.
DeleteIt has no application, again, I am pointing out to you the example of Ligot and Garcia, both of whom are PMA Alumni. They both clearly are corrupt and committed worst acts than Cudia and yet what has the vaunted PMA "Honor Code" done for them? How come we don't see them being "ostracized" also?
Just yesterday a report of a PMA alumna who is now a PSG member was caught using a cloned ATM card, how will the "Honor Code" work with that guy also?
What's "absurd" is constantly hiding behind the excuse, "you are not military, you are only a civilian". What are you saying, that "right" and "wrong" have different standards for civilians and the military? Or are you saying that the military knows more about "right" and "wrong" about civilians?
DeleteThe PMA is funded by taxpayers money, hence it is just right that the taxpayers have the right to know and have a say on what is happening there.
As mentioned by Ranger Cabunzky in my earlier query, I quote, "active officers are not under the jurisdiction of PMA,,,the honor system is applied to cadets. Every officer is expected to live by the honor code without the need of an honor system". It's really up to the Alumni whether to expel this PSG member who got caught recently. The other General who brought shame and embarrassment to the institution was expelled by the Alumni.
DeleteIn addition an honor is a set of rules that needs to be followed. The cadet is well aware of this honor system in the institution as he has been there for four years. He may not be allowed to graduate this March but he may be given a chance later on...
DeleteIf they want their beloved "Honor Code" to have a lasting effect, it should be implemented outside of the school halls to encompass alumni also. Those found guilty of corruption and violating the Honor Code should be ostracized also, not just expelled from the alumni association. Kung ganyan, e di mas bibilib pa siguro ako. Otherwise, it is an exercise in hypocrisy.
Delete@rhk111 as metioned by Mr Carlito Santiago, the infractions of a few should not be blamed on the entire organization. Rhk111 where did you graduate? Given a few research, I am sure I can also mentioned a few bad apples in your Alumni but does that make your school a bad organization? So stop implicating the PMA based on the infractions of her few graduates. I do not think it is fair!
DeleteRhk111, your point maybe correct. Honor Code should have lasting effect even outside the PMA halls. Everybody aspires for that. But mind you, there is no perfect system however PMA is geared towards improvement, enhancement and transformation. We should be optimistic with this and not look on the negative side that PMA produces corrupt leaders when in fact there are lot more good leaders in the field and even died for a cause.
DeleteWith your point that those guilty of corruption be ostracized as what you always wanted, it is still a hypothesis.
@Anonymous, Just because I don't agree with how the Honor Code works doesn't mean I am saying the entire PMA organization is corrupt. Understand what is being said instead of making wrong conclusions in your head.
DeleteWhat I am saying is that I find the Honor Code and its punishments hypocritical because it is not transparent, and limited only in the confines of the school. This is why we have seen cadets who graduated from the PMA following the Honor Code only to throw it away once they were outside of the PMA.
Wow, success ka rin rhk111 sa iyong 'bright ideas'.
DeleteGusto mo ngayon na ang Honor System ay i-apply sa mga graduates ng PMA?
Teka, ano school mo? Halimbawa, nag-graduate ka ng Mt Currimao College, yong school regulations ba ng school na iyon ang sinusundan mo sa lahat ng ginagawa mo ngayon?
I don't comprehend your 'wisdom' here.
What we are railing here at, Ranger, is the apparent inconsistency of applying the so-called "Honor Code". You have so strict rules for cadets, and yet so much more lenient rules for alumni graduating from the same school. "Lying" as a Cadet tanggal agad, and yet a 2nd Lt. representing the Philippines in Fort Benning is caught Shoplifting and yet demotion lang and he gets to stay in the AFP? IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Kahit paano mo pa paikutin iyan, in the end people will always go back to that point again and again and again.
DeleteBabaan ko pa uli ang pagpaliwanag para baka maintindihan mo ha. Eh kasi, sa bahay pinag-usapan namin itong kaso. Ayaw ko na maging sinungaling ang anak ko. Tinuruan ko rin sya ng konsepto ng Honor Code.
DeleteTinuro ko sa anak ko yong kaibahan ng Honor Code at ng Honor System.
Tinanong ko ang anak ko kung naintindihan nya ang Honor System, naintindihan nya!
Nang itinanong ko mga basic questions para malaman kung totoong na-gets, nasagot nya!
Ito ang tanong ko sa aking Grade 8 na anak:
Ako: Para kanino lang ang Honor System?
Harvey: Para lang po sa mga kadete ng PMA.
Ako: Para sa kanino ang Honor Code?
Harvey: Para sa kadete na nag-aral sa PMA at hanggang sya ay mamamatay.
Ako: Me Honor System ba sa AFP?
Harvey: Wala kasi para ito sa kadete ng PMA.
Uy gets ng Grade 8 na bata!
Ngayon rhk111, halimbawa ikaw ay nag-aral ng Accountancy sa UP. Pag nandaya ka sa UP, expelled ka. Alam mo yon. Naka-graduate ka at naging CPA.
Nagtrabaho ka sa BIR. Bilang assessor ng BIR, nahuli ka ni Commissioner Kim Henares na nandaya para kumita ka sa transaksyon mo sa isang Chinese businessman na nagpa-adjust ng babayarang buwis.
Bilang empleyado ng government agency, ang aksyon ng BIR ay base sa Civil Service Law at maging sa Code of Ethics at sa Revised Penal Code. Nagkakaso ka ng falsication of public documents at accepting bribes. According to the law, you can get a lawyer and defend yourself. The accusation must be proven by the court. Your offense must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Now, gusto mo na ang i-apply sayo ay yong UP regulation na expulsion sa salang pandaraya? You will not get a lawyer? No more court hearings? Uwi agad to plant camote?
Sagot! :-)
Inakupo, sa UP walang Graduating Student na ma e EXPEL dahil lang nagsinungaling at na late ng 2 minutes kagaya ng PMA ninyo.
DeleteAng kinaiinisan ng mga tao e yung magdadahilan kayo na malinis at me "honor" kayo kaya kayo ganyan ka instrikto, tapos yun pala me gradweyt kayo na nag sha shop lift sa PMA.
Tatagalugin ko na rin para maintindihan mo: Kahit ano pa sabihin mo, hindi mo maipagkakaila kung gaano ka IPOKRITO at ka INCONSISTENT iyang "Honor Code" ninyo diyan sa military. Graduating student lying about being late for 2 minutes tanggal agad? E yung PMA Graduate mo na nag shop lift sa Fort Benning habang dala ang bandila ng Pilipinas, tinanggal ba? In "ostracize" ba? Hindi, dinemote lang at andiyan pa rin sa military.
Kahit anong teknikalidad iyang ipagpilitan mo, in the end kitang-kita at hindi maitatago sa mata ng bayan ang pagka ipokrito at pagka inconsistent ninyo.
I graduated on a different academy but it was patterned to pma. We also have this honor code " we the midshipmen do not lie, cheat,steal, and tolerate among us those who do " this honor code changed me as a person. Like anyone else i am not a perfect person but i still live up to this code. Maapboy 2011
ReplyDeleteDave,
DeleteYou are absolutely right! The PMA does not monopolize the concept of the Honor System. We have it in the Officer Candidate School, PNPA, PMMA, MAAP and even in our Army Training Units.
The concept of the Honor Code is also practiced by many families, whatever they call it. :-)
Nakakatakot pala maging kaaway si Ranger Cabunzky kung hindi sang ayon ang commenter sa reasoning ni Cadet Boloy Cudia. Ganun pala ang sundalo nakakatakot kung mapikon. Hihingin ang name at picture ng commenter. Kala ko mga "gentlemen" ang mga officers ng Armed Forces. Eh sa mga sagot nya pa lang sa mga commenters halatang bwisit na bwisit na sya (at may baril pa sya at Scout Ranger pa sya).
ReplyDeleteUnahan na kita ser kasi nakakatakot kang Scout Ranger...civilian lang po ako. Yung ginawa kay Cudia pwede din naman siguro na hindi sya tuluyang paalisin sa serbisyo at bigyan na lang ng karapat dapat na punshiment. Ang naibigay nyang sagot ay sagot na ayaw tanggapin ng PMA. Diba ser?
Sa mata naming mga taxpayers parang ang dami ng ginastos dito sa cadete na ito at simpleng reason nya na ayon sa PMA na "palusot" at ayon sa non-military taxpayer background commenters na legit naman ay tanggal na agad at hindi magiging 2nd LT.
Kaso yan ang patakaran sa PMA. Walang magagawa ang mga kawawang non-military commenters but to keep our mouths shut...diba ser?
Sana na lang ser bilang sundalo ng bayan na inis sa mga cadeteng nag-"papalusot" sana naman ma apply ninyong mga PMA grads yung Honor Code system sa mga high ranking officers na hindi sumusunod sa patakaran na ito. AT hindi lang panay sabihin na hindi naiintidihan ng civilian ang pamumuhay sa PMA. Nang sa gayon maiiwasan ang Garcia, Ligot, Reyes, Ramos, Pabaon Generals, Cedric Lee PMA Class 76 at maiwasan din ang shoeless na private first class.
Yun lang po. :)
Ferdinand Limcaoco
PS
Judah the Maccabee (paborito ko pong statue kung saan po ako tumuntong)
You shouldn't be scared of him though. He is just within his rights to protect what he believes. Just like anyone else, if you hold the truth, you have no fear...
DeleteCedric Lee is not an 'Ayer nor an adopted one, AFAIK. The above mentioned officials are few amongst the members of the dishonored society. My .02 cents... Not everyone are like 'em.
Just sayin...
-John
The fact that you are able to air your two cents on the issue already says a lot about the blogger don't you tink so Mr Limcaoco? Like you, I am also a civilian and a taxpayer (8-5 worler na walang magawa sa withholding tax) but hindi ako nanghihinayang kung ang tax ko ay ginagamit na pang sweldo sa mga kagaya ni Ltc Cabunoc.
DeletePlease distinguish between being passionate at being pikon. I think that the Col is only being passionate in what he believes in.
Sir Limcaoco, pls feel comfortable and dont be afraid. This is for healthy discussion only if a comment is based on critical thinking and facts. I find it hard to reply on your comment. First, You seem not so sure of what you are saying. You always say "pwde din nmn siguro", "parang ang dami", "di ba sir". Second, you already made conclusions out of what you just heard. Third, your comment is just similar to other people. Dinagdag mo lang na nakakatakot si sir ranger at pikon pa. But none the less, all your "sana naman" "sana lang", will be considered and hopefully acted upon by concerned.
DeleteKuya Ferdie,
DeleteAng aking kaaway ay yong terorista na namumugot ng ulo, nambobomba at yong nanununog ng mga cell sites at buses. Kaaway ko yong gumagamit ng karahasan at atakehin ang mapayapang civilian community para magpahayag ng kanilang paniniwalang political!
Ang aking kaaway ay yong tipong gustong agawin ang ating mga isla sa Spratlys Group of Islands.
Kapag mag-abutan kami sa battlefield at parehas kaming may baril, handa akong pumatay at mamamatay para sa aking sinumpaang tungkulin. Handa akong gamitin ang aking kaalaman sa pagtudla para ipagtanggol ang mga mamamayan. Handa akong bumaril kung nakasalalay ang aking buhay at ng aking mga kasamahan.
Kung nakakatakot ako, depende kung kasama ka sa category ng kaaway ng ating bayan na sinabi ko.
Rules are rules and where made to followed. Just like seat belts, they should not be called as such if we are not to use 'em. If there are no rules, what would happen to us?? For "US" civilians, the only way we can absorb and fully understand the Honor Code is to be ONE! Otherwise, we can never fully understand what LT.COL is trying to explain to us. We are merely on the sideline.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly what Ms. Cudia wants... the issue to go big using social media, she is winning in her own way, but there are more questions than answered. I am still awaiting for statement of Cadet Cudia himself. This should be interesteing.
All I can say is, a Genius thinks before he moves, while a Moron moves before he thinks.
-john
DeleteGranting nga na nagsinungaling siya. Enough ba yun to dismiss him? Siguro naman trained na din siya as cadet
ReplyDeleteYun ang patakaran. Walang Pinag iba a nd Honor Code sa Revise Penal Code. example Forgery is also lying... Me parusaba o wala.
DeleteKung sa college nga na eexpel ang magnanakaw ang nangopya (plagarism) sa PMA pa
hayzzzz
correction po: cudia was not dismissed by PMA, he resigned! under the Honor System, if one was found guilty, he is given two (2) options: 1 - to resign for the good of the service; or 2 - to remain and be ostracized... Cudia chose the 1st option.
Deletemr limcaoco - matagal kami nagsama ni sir Harold and i will assure you, hindi sya pikon. what you read in his responses is his passion in defending what he believes in. his difference with other comments here is that he states his arguments based on facts and logic. hindi po personalan or based on illogical reasoning. katulad nya, ang honor code ang pinakaunang tinuro sa akin nung pumasok ako sa PMA. The Honor Code has been my guide ever since that day.
ReplyDeletengayon sa sinabi mo na "pwede naman sya siguro hindi palabasin at bigyan na lang ng karapat dapat na punsihment" - the honor code is absolute either you admit your mistakes or not, there is no "palusot" pag tinanggap natin ang palusot e that is the same with lowering your standards when it comes to honor. ganyan lang po ba ang standard nyo pag dating sa honor? will you accept that as a taxpayer na substandard ang "produkto" ng PMA? the graduates of the academy will be your guardians kaya wag po natin babaan ang standard. yes there are some na napariwara paglabas ng academy but what they did after leaving the portals of hte academy is theirs alone. mas marami pa rin ang naninilbihan ng maayos at matapat sa tungkulin at ang ang kinatatakutan mong si Sir Harold ang isang magandang ehemplo
let us study the circumstances that led to Cadet Boloys guilty verdict, let us see the wisdom behind the honor code and the honor system, and then challenge yourselves(military or civilian) to live by the Code.
kung kayo si cadet boloy, pano nyo sasagutin ang DR nya?
ako? I DID COMMIT THIS OFFENSE, I DID NOT INTEND TO VIOLATE REGULATIONS -
explanation ko? BECAUSE I ATTENDED TO A PERSONAL MATTER AND I WAS LATE REPORTING GOING BACK TO CLASS- dahil ang pagpunta sa ofis para tignan ang grade mo is something personal and is not a valid reason for you to miss your next duty. A duty which you are being paid by the taxpayers to attend to. i owned up to my mistake at ang parusa dyan is demerits and touring compare to cadets boloys explanation na quibling
JEPOY "96
maybe you should make a timeline and determine the exact dates cudia and the other cadets (who came late) were reprimanded? i read one post somewhere that cudia was reprimanded late earlier so when the 2 saw what happened to him they knew what explanation to write... if i were cudia and i would lie, i wont think of a lie that all my classmates can refute...
ReplyDeletedapat din tanungin, sino ba ang makikinabang kung nawala siya sa honor roll? may members ba ang honor committee na candidates for honor? baka isang anggulo rin yan
ReplyDeleteI think a lot has been dismissed in the PMA the way Cudia has committed. If they are not reinstated by all means of legal remedy then who is Cudia to be accorded with due treatment?
ReplyDeleteBad apple is a bad apple and must be separated from the colony of the good ones.
Since they rant about being a taxpayer. So do I, I am paying 32% of my income to the BIR and as a tax payer, I am in full support of the PMA institution in producing world class military graduates!
Roy S.
"if were cudia and i would lie, i wont think of a lie that all my classmates can refute" - the mere fact po na nag isip ka na mag lie, there is something wrong already. wag na po natin isipin yung iba. base na lang po natin sa isinagot ni boloy at ang circumstances. na late po ba talga sya dahil pinahintay sya ng instructor o na late sya dahil me kinailangan sya sa instructor nya? madami na kasing kung ano ano mga lumalabas na theories na nawawala na sa basic premises ng code ang usapan, DID HE INTEND TO DECEIVE? ang explanation nya is nadismiss sya ng instructor ng late. the fact is, na dismiss sila on time, as evidenced by the other members of the class who were able to go to the next class on time. ang linakad nya sa professor is for personal reasons at hindi valid ito para ma late ka. kaya yan na po ang sinasabi na "palusot" which is not accepted po sa honod code.
ReplyDeletenext anonymous - wala po conspiracy dyan - as stated sa mga comments sa taas - there are 9 voting members that are random and from different classes.
JEPOY '96
I now understand the passion of Major Harold Cabunoc. Thanks to those who replied.
ReplyDeleteMga brothers po sa Armed service ako ay ordinaryong tao lamang at walang boses. Nakakapagod lang po kasi makita sa pahayagan ang iilan sa top brass ay binababoy po ang AFP. Nasisira tuloy ang imahe ng totoong sundalo.
In fact po brothers, tuwang tuwa ako nung nag pakita ng defiance si now Senator Trillianes at yung katapangan ng mg Colonels nung panahon ni Arroyo. Ganun po kasi ang tingin ko sa totoong sundalo at hindi po naninindak. Pero salamat din sa pagbigay ng kalinawan.
Tama din ang karamihan ng comment dito na dapat din siguro mapakinggan ng tao ang boses ni Cadet at hindi lang sa pamilya nya.
Ferdi Limcaoco
Bawat isa sa atin ay meron boses. Bawat katiwali-an ay meron makakakita. Kaya nawawala sa atin ang takot na magsumbong sa kinaukulan ang mga masasamang pangyayari. Ang katotohanan ay palaging syang nana-ig. Bawat isa't isa sa atin may kanya kanyang kultura. Nasa atin palagi ang huling desisyon na dapat gumawa ng tama. Ito ay hindi pwede dalahin ng isang organisasyon o institusyon. Dahil sila ay nandyan lamang para maggabay sa atin lahat.
DeleteKumbaga sa tinatawag na kaligtasan o safety, "Maaksidente ba ako? O, Maka-aksidente ba ako ng iba? O, Meron ba ma aksidente?"
Kadalasan hindi natin maintindihan ang kultura kaya natin ito pinag aaralan. Sa tamang panahon ang mga sugat ay hihilom din.
Ako ay isa ring ordinaryo na mamayan na nais pagandahin ang ating bayan kahit sa pinakamaliit na aking makakaya.
Maraming salamat sa nagbubukas ng ating mga isip at puso sa katotohanan.
Mabuhay po kayong lahat.
gil
It is good to hear another side of the story, sir. However, I would like to inquire if the Honor Code is applicable only within the boundaries of the academy and not applicable, say, when a cadet lies, cheats, or steals from us 'civilians?' Just a thought.
ReplyDeleteI think this Cudia lying incident becomes a matter of national interest since the multi-million of pesos of taxpayers monies spent for his education will go to drain incase he is forced unceremoniously to leave the long gray line without the right due process applied to him. It is for PMA to answer those allegations that indeed (1) it was not true that the Honor Committee was not arbitrary by forcing the lone “nay vote” to become part of the 9 absolute “aye” votes (show to the public the investigation-video as what a “baron of PMA class ’83” cried at Rappler), (2) that the professor certified as being circulated in public that he/she was responsible in dismissing late from the class Cudia.
ReplyDeleteWithout answering these allegations in public, PMA honor committee’s integrity before the eyes of the Filipinos not only become a suspect but responsible for the loss of multi-million pesos scarce tax payers monies.
Is Congress Investigation or restraining order with T.R.O (Temporary Restraining Order) with mandamus from the court not far behind?
di naman siguro pikon, medyo arrogant lang.
ReplyDeleteArrogant? si Col? Duh? I think he is only confident because he knows what he is talking about kaya direct to the point at walang paligoy ligoy kung mag salita.
Delete"What a society gets in its armed forces is exactly what it asks for, no more and no less. What it asks for tends to be a reflection of what it is. When a country looks at its fighting forces, it is looking in a mirror; if the mirror is a true one, the face that it sees there will be its own." - General Sir John Hackett
ReplyDelete1st: The PMA did NOT produce the Garcias, Ligots, the Pabaon generals and those undesirables in uniform. Give me 10 crooked soldiers and I'll produce 100 civilian crooks. It is the civilian political leadership that has been corrupting the military. Saying that the PMA produces scoundrels because of the act of a few is like saying the UP is a major factory for corrupt politicians because many senatongs, tongressmen graduated there. Walang konek. I had the fortune of talking with a former PSG head, (na pinasakay pa ako sa kotse nya at hinatid pa ako sa hotel) whom I chided about the kind of politicians the PSG protects. His good-natured quick retort: "Eh inelect nyo eh!" Which sums up the problem. It's not the PMA, guys. Stop lambasting the institution.
2nd. Cudia should go. His presence at the PMA is bad for the corps' morale. He chose to join the cadet corps. He should abide by its rules and traditions, no matter how unacceptable it is now to him and to many. Because there are always far greater things than our individual selves. His mindset is not that of a warrior's. Pang yuppy. He will be of better use in the civilian world. He can even run for political office, be a member of the Commission on Appointments and exact his sweet revenge in the future. :-)
Rupert, I hope there are more Filipinos who know what is right and what is wrong.
DeleteKaragdagan pa sa dapat titingnan ng mga kababayan natin ay ang katotohanang napakaganda naman ang itinuturo sa atin ng iba't-ibang institusyon. Libo-libo nga yang nakikita nating nagsisimba at ala-Santo ang asal sa loob ng simbahan para magdasal at makinig sa homily. Pagkalabas naman, ayon nandaraya sa kanilang mga tindahan (no receipt, me pitik ang timbangan) at nagbebenta ng GSM (Galing sa Magnanakaw) na mga kagamitan. Di ba nakikita natin lahat ito at batid natin di ba? Ang kapasyahan ng mga taong ganyan ay sarili nilang diskarte yon. Hindi natin sinisisi ang kanilang institusyon.
Dapat siguro pagtulungan natin paano ayusin ang mga baluktot na kalakaran sa ating society. Magsimula yon sa ating sarili.
kaya naman nagrereact ang mga netizens sa mga nangyayari kasi ang taas ng tingin nila sa PMA..at dahil nga sa nangyari na hindi masagot sagot ng PMA, ayan kung ano ano ang sinasabi..
Deletepinipilit na intindihin ng utak ko na iba ang batas sa loob ng pma kesa sa labas.. pero bakit may ganyang nangyayari?
Siguro kapag nasa langit na tayo after the Judgment Day (Kung mapa-langit tayo), wala nang nagkakamali doon. Wala nang kurakot don. Wala nang i-ostracize doon.
DeleteWe are in an imperfect society. Maraming mali sa ating mundong ginagalawan.
Dapat maging batid tayo na reflection lang ito sa estado ng ating bayan.
Lingon-lingon tayo sa ating kapaligiran at maging mapagmatyag at mausisa. Kapag may time lang. :-)
I agree colonel. King gusto ng mga Pinoy ng militar na matatag at talagang magsisilbi AT MANANALO sa guerra, we should elect the best civilian leaders. Just the amount that Napoles and her cohorts stole (P10 billion) is enough to have a decent upgrade of our navy, which we badly need because we are a maritime country. This is one thing we should really be angry about; not the resignation of Cudia. In the grand scheme of things, he is not a huge loss to the country's military and the PMA. And I suppose credited naman ang subjects niya sa Academy once lumipat siya sa civilian school.
DeleteAnyhow, I appreciate this forum for discussion provided by a warrior like you. I'm actually a "fan". I've been to PMA graduations (siguro nandun pa nga si Cudia nang pumunta ako sa Baguio in 2010) and have several PMAyer friends. Some are relatives pero mga super senior na. There is glamour in the uniform and prestige in the rank, which infuse the PMA with almost mythical quality. Kaya ganun na lamang ang pagpansin at pagtuligsa kung may napapansing "mali". The military institution is of course imbued with public interest and therefore the public's opinions about the PMA should be welcome. So this blog is good for public relations. Thanks.
"you worry to much. anything you are not familiar with or have not been connected - just stay quiet."
ReplyDeleteWow ha Cadet Redhat. "Stay quiet" talaga. I hope you are not one because it will be such a disgrace, but If you are indeed a cadet or a soldier, remember that it is your job to ensure that our freedom to express ourselves is protected - even if we express opinions contrary to yours. That is not just a job. That is a sacred duty of a soldier in a republican democracy.
A big YES mas dapat nga syang mag resign kung sa loob ng apat na taon hindi pa rin nya natutunang magsabi na totoo . He is either a Chronic Liar or an over ambitious person na may entitlement mentality. Regardless of which he is dangerous to be entrusted with power.
ReplyDeleteWhat PMA did was correct. He entered PMA knowing the institutions' rules, policies and traditions, and he agreed to abide and uphold them when he join the Academy. Ika nga ng mga nag post wala naman pumilit sa kanya na pumask ng PMA. So bakit ngayon na nakagawa sya ng kamaliaan at na apply ang policy sa kanya sumisigaw sya ng aray at foul!
What right does he have to request the rule be changed in the middle of the game to benefit him at that?
kung pakiramdam mong naagrabyado ka, hindi ka ba magrereklamo?
Deletemay rason si cudia kung bakit sya or family nya nagkakaganyan...
hindi pa tapos ang laban ni cudia, so antay lang muna tayo bago magsalita ng kung ano ano..
pwede naman sigurong magtanong diba?
if he feel aggrieved, he has every right to appeal. however there is a right way and forum to make an appeal. if he is very sure that his appeal can stand the test and scrutiny of the the reviewing body then maybe there is no need for this media blitz. no need to attack the system and destroy the institution that nurture you for 4 years.
Deletehe did.. but no one listen to him..
Deletethen judgement came.. adios ang hatol...
reunion day...
im sure nag share sya sa family nya regarding sa case nya...
at syempre bilang naagrabyado siya sa pakiramdam nya, he seek help/advice to his family.. kasi nga no one is listening to him...
ang mali lang sa family nya, BROADCAST sa social media...
but for me, HINDI KO SILA MASISISI
kung totoo yung blog ni berteni, then ano talaga ang naging kasalanan ni cudia at bakit sya na dismiss?
ReplyDeletenagtatanong lang po.
#frustrated pmaer
@#frustrated pmaer
Deletethe reported 8-1 voting which was allegedly changed to 9-0 voting is just an allegations coming from the sister of Cudia made on her facebook post. but until now, no piece of evidence has been produced to support that allegations. the burden of producing the evidence is on Cudia's camp because they were the one making accusations. until no evidence will be produced that allegation will remain as hearsay and difficult to believe...
Hi anonymous..
Deletethanks for your reply...
naalala ko, may isang pma alumnus ang naghamon na ipakita yung video nung judgement, parang naniniwala sya sa 8-1.. but still i dont know kung totoo talaga..
now, i just read the report from rappler... compare sa blog ni SR Lt col, medyo mag pagkakaiba..
siguro nawalan na ng hope si cdt kaya niya nagawang isiwalat yung evidence niya sa public. to gain sympathy from the people who are paying for his 4-year stay in the academy.
ReplyDelete-excadet
@-excadet
Deletesir, if you are really an ex-cadet then maybe you internalize properly the Honor Code and understand it very on how it works and implemented.
until now, i dont believe that this media blitz has the blessings of Cadet Cudia. for until now, i dont read any statement coming from him regarding the issues published in social media. what we read were the allegations posted by his sister and a certain Dado Enrique who media described him as PMA alumnus (based on my friend, this alleged former army officer did not graduated from PMA though he was also an ex-cadet who was dismissed from the academy on his last year thereat).
so i think the one who is lossing hope is not Cudia but her sister. maybe if Cudia is given a chance to undo all the media brouhahaha, he will chose to appeal his case silently minus the media blitz caused by her sister...
you are right... siguro kung palalabasin lang siya sasabihan niya yung ate niya at iba pa na tumahimik na sila... kung yung mga nakakatandang kapatid niya nagsalita, lalo ate siya, walang makakapigil
Deletelet me share this quote i found in wikipedia article about Honor Code System in US universities and service schools. This was made by once-Chancellor Madison Sarratt of Vanderbilt University in US and engraved in a plaque of the Honor Code found in the Student Life Center of said university:
ReplyDelete"Today I give you two examinations, one in trigonometry and one in honesty. I hope you pass them both, but if you must fail one, let it be trigonometry for there are many good men in this world today who cannot pass an examination in trigonometry, but there are no good men in the world who cannot pass an examination in honesty."
hopes that we will learn something from this quote...
utos ng hari hindi dapat mabali otherwise he will lost the throne; going around an established law would render it inutile and the institution that supposed to protect it will bound to kaput from existence
ReplyDeleteAng Honor po para sa akin ay nasa s atin hinubog ng panahon simula ng tayo ay magkaisip at hindi sapat ang apat na taon para maging basehan ng antas kung gaano k karangal ngunit ang PMA honor code ay para s institusyon at s mga kadeteng nasasakupan nito at ang Honor System ay nabuo hindi bilang batas o regulasyon kundi bilang unawaan sa pagitan lamang ng mga kadete (gentlemen's agreement) kung sa isang pagkakataon ay nasuway ang sinasabing "agreement" alam ng bawat kadete ang dapat nyang gawin at hindi ito madaling intindihin kung hindi ka nagkadete. Hindi ito ganun kakomplikado katulad ng mga batas natin napaka simple ngunit ideal, karapat dapat lng sapagkat sa PMA hinuhubog ang idealism ng ating mga susunod na pinuno ng sandatahan at tagapaglingkod ng ating Bayan. Hindi po dapat na ang isyung ito ay pagpiyestahan s social media, hayaan natin n ang ating mga kadete ang magdesisyon, gugustuhin b natin n s maagang edad ang mga susunod n lider at tagapaglingkod ay sunud sunuran at nadidiktahan ng mga pansariling opinyon? The Honor Code and the Honor System has lived long and it will and it should be cherished as it is.
ReplyDeleteWas it a harsh punishment?? YES! Could they have given him double the demerits? YES! But that's not what Code abides with. They don't like substands.. Do you?? Will you settle for anything less? Will you be OK if your local politician gives you the run around and always make "palusot" instead of taking ownership for his wrong doings? Now if you say YES to these questions, imagine what kind of Philippines will you be in? Probably worst than it is now. Don't get me wrong, i'm proud to be PINOY, but i'm not proud of what the other PINOY's are doing... If I recall correctly, the now defunct cadet has kept his mouth shut, it's either he's gathering intel, or don't have any, and is nonchalant of her sister's idiocracy.
ReplyDeleteTo add on, to all of you who is attacking the whole Academy or Military institution because of this Cudia's issue, where were you guys when our soldiers were risking their lives in Basilan? Zamboanga? Did you have any sympathy when a CPL died fighting for your liberty? How would you feel if you are a non commisioned soldier, or even a ranking officer, and get a meal allowance of P25 while in the midst of a recon mission? Your combat boots are worn out, this have a hole on the sole, and your CO can't get you new ones because our politicians are constricting the budget to something else? How would you feel if the guerillas have better armaments than you? All of this, tiniis ng mga sundalo natin without hesitation, without you asking them... All because of HONOR, INTERGITY AND LOYALTY.
Can you do the same?
-John
Very well said sir. We, the civilian population, may never fully understand the discipline and rigors of the military. What I know is, even with your "codes" in place, we still see scalawags out there. I shudder to think what will happen if we failed to implement these standards. What I liked most about what you said was not on the blog but on one of your replies wherein you placed more premium to the "merit system" than grades to determine progression when in actual service. School shows intellectual capacity yes but doesn't guarantee character. We need more men with character not just in the military but in all branches of government.
ReplyDeleteI shared your blog on my wall hoping it brings clarity to more people.
Kahit PMA grad ang isang Captain or Colonel temptation is too strong to commit corruption kasi maliit ang sueldo. Just take a Lt. Colonel who is a PMA alumnus, ang sueldo niyan diyan lang sa P50, 000 a month (mas malaki pa ang sueldo ng nag babarko abroad na hindi pumasa sa NCEE noong panahon natin). Ngayon, iyong kebegan niyan na mayor gusto siyang maging chief of police na may P10,000 a day na payola galing sa jueteng, masyao, three-ball, tupada, video karera, etc. para sa hepe. Kahit sa Heaven Military Academy pa iyan nag graduate, kakalimutan niya iyong Honor Code niya sa Long Gray Line. Siempri may mga anak iyan na nag-aaral sa college, gusto rin bumili ng SUV Toyota, Mitsubishi, Ford, etc pampayabang sa Alumni Homecoming kada February sa Baguio sa mga Marines, Navy, Air force na mistah niya na nagtitiis sa maliit na sueldo nila. I know these things, since I was with these alumni and the mayors because of the nature of my work.
ReplyDeleteKapatid, kung pipiliin ng isang PMAer na maging nakakahiyang KURAKOT at TIWALI the moment na sya ay nasa tunay na mundong ginagalawan, sya ang may pananagutan doon. Pinili nya yon. Dapat ipatunay nya ang kanyang bull ring na may nakalagay na INTEGRITY. Dapat huwag syang magdala ng pangalan ng PMA. I-ostracize nya ang kanyang sarili.
DeleteAng tunay na disiplina ay ang pag-gawa ng tama na walang nakatingin. Iyon ang dahilan kung bakit ay hinihigpitan ang kadete sa PMA para masanay sila na gumawa ng tama sa lahat ng panahon at panindigan ito sa buong buhay nila.
So, nabanggit mo ang lahat na kabulastugan sa tunay na mundo. Therefore, alam mo na maraming kalokohan sa iyong mundong ginagalawan?
Ano ginawa mong solusyon para maituwid ito? Meron ba? Hanggang batikos ka na lang? Would it make a difference na i-memorize mo na lang ang lahat ng pangalan ng naging tiwaling PMAers?
Let us help start solving this social problem. Simulan natin sa bahay natin. Tinuruan mo rin bang mabuti ang anak mo? Kapag me assignment sya na tipong di naman nya kaya, ikaw ba gumawa nito para tataas ang kanyang grado? Kapag nag-simba ka at nakinig ng mga magandang aral, dinadala mo tong mga aral at ginagawa mo ba sa mundo mo sa labas?
Ulitin ko, hindi kasalanan ng PMA. Merong problema ang Filipino society. Double standards tayo. Ayusin natin. Simulan mo. Simulan ko rin.
Very well said LT.COL.... There are too many double standards sa ating mga pinoy. Help yourself before you help others... And tendency natin mga pinoy is, bakit ko susundan ang batas trapiko eh di naman sinusunod ng karamihan? If all of us has this mentalitly... maglalakad na lang ako... Even that, siguro problema pa rin....
DeleteSa church na lang... we pretend to go to church but we dress like were going to a club, i'm a catholic but I admire the discpline of other religous congregation when it comes to dress code while at the house of God. Meron diyan na naka backless, mini skirt, plunging neckline, et. al... I have nothing against taking our babies sa mass, but kung iiyak na lang sila ng iiyak during the gospel/homilee, wag niyo na lang isama kasi it disturbs the solemnity of the gospel hearing... Yung mga kalalakihan naman, nasa labas lang nakatambay tinitignan ang bagong linis na kotse or nag yoyosi...
-John
I think you are also missing a critical point in the equation.... these military men have wives. Majority of them are also working or are running their own business. More often than not these wives earned more than there husband does. Also, factor in the non-monetary benefits received such as housing (wala ng bayad sa renta), Free hospitalization and doctor consultation including dependents (wala ng doctor's fee), etc. Their combined income can easily reach P100,000 minus the housing rental paid by other non-militarycouple thus increasing their purchasing power tremendously..
DeleteIt is true that there will always be those who are not satisfied with what they can legally earned and aspire to get more using whatever means but majority of them are and still upholding the time honored values taught in the Academy.
Normally naiisip ko lang yung mga questions na gusto kong tanungin kung binabasa ko ang issues sa newspaper at dito sa forum na ito nasasagot. Ito po ang nasaisip ko since lumabas itong story ni Cudia.
ReplyDeleteSirs...paano po kung pa-ostracize na lang si Cudia?
1) I-ignore na lang ba sya hanggang makatapos?
2) Magiging 2nd LT pa rin ba sya?
3) May rerespeto ba sa kanya pag labas nya ng PMA?
4) HIndi na ba sya considered as brother ng class nya?
Thanks in advance po
Ferdi Limcaoco
it's a military rule....definitely not for the faint hearted! wag nang palusot pa!
ReplyDeleteFerdi, i'm not an expert in this but I think he will graduate, become a junior officer. But he will become the "others". He will be the brother from another mother... The treatment will not be same. That is why it's better to step down and resign... Kung kaya ng conscience mo to stay, it is all on you... I think he will be respected more if he does rather than staying...
ReplyDeletePlease educate me LT.COL if i'm wrong...
-John
Sir,
ReplyDeleteMy father is a retired military. And alam ko kung gano kayo kahigpit sa honor code.
Thank you sa mga details na sinabi mo sa blog mo about rules/law/policies/practice inside the PMA. Pero nde ko lang maiwasan mag-comment pag dating sa story na you presented to justify the why Cudia was dismissed by the Honor Committee. You said:
"Well, ganito na lang mga kaibigan. Kwentuhan ko kayo ng halos kaparehas na mga circumstances sa tunay na pangyayari. Sa interesado na i-verify ang mga documents sa kanyang kaso, gamitin nyo na lang ang legal procedures paano makakuha ng kopya.
Ang isalarawan ko sa inyo sa ibaba ay ang halimbawa ng palusot na kasinungalingan. Ang mga aktor sa aking kwento ay ang mga kadeteng sina Dugomon, Kulapu at Boloy."
You said that the story is SIMILAR TO what happened to the case of Cudia. I beg to disagree Sir! There's a big difference in a cadet asking for his grade after class that's why he was late to his next class to the cadet who was ASKED by his professor to stay to discuss his grade. In your story no doubt yes "palusot" nga ang ginawa ni Cadet Boloy. Pero that's not what happened to Cudia. So why would you cite your story as an example to justify why Cadet was dismissed if the circumstances are NOT the same? correct me if I'm wrong. Yung sinabi mo sa story mo na it was the cadet who choose to stay kasi gusto nyang tingnan grades nya. Is that also the case of Cudia? Base on the released statement of the professor(Costales):
"I agree and consider that because Cadet CUDIA is under my instruction to wait, and the other cadets still have business with me, it is reasonable enough for him to say that “Our class was dismissed a bit late” (dealing with matter of seconds or a minute particularly 45 seconds to 1 minute and 30 seconds)."
For me what you presented is the SAME late violation of the two cadets but with a DIFFERENT circumstances. So sir, where and how can you say Gotcha!
Ito ang news article ng rappler na base sa aktwal na interview sa mga kadete sa loob at sa mga officers na andon sa PMA.
DeleteAndyan ang larawan ng Delinquency Report at ang makatotohanang mga detalye na nangyari sa klase nila.
So, maliwanag na dyan na na-dismiss ang OR 432 class on time. Di na late yong classmates nila sa next class.
Si Cadet Cudia ay nalulungkot sa deduction nya sa grade sa nakaraang exam. Baka naman kasi maungusan sya ni Nr 3. Uy sa mga mahilig sa conspiracy theories, "Baka naman si Maam Costales ay kakutsaba ng Number 3 cadet para matalo si Cudia sa ranking!".
Now, dahil makulit si Cudia na makita ang grades sa nakaraang exam, pinag-antay sila dahil nasa opisina ni Ms Costales eh.
Sibilyan ka. Di ka military. Di ka rin nagkadete. Di mo maintindihan kung na-dismiss na ba ang klase nila o hindi pa. Di mo maintindihan ang legal at illegal order. Di mo maintindihan ang basehan ng "Excused from Duty".
Ito ang mga tanong at sagutin ko na rin:
1. Na-dismiss ba on time ang klase nina Cudia? Answer is yes. Kaya nga hindi na late yong bulk ng klase di ba?
2. Valid reason/basis ba sa pagka-excuse sa next duty (Classroom Formation) ang pagtingin-tingin ng grades? Answer: No. Personal nyang diskarte yon. Invalid. Unacceptable. Unfair to those who followed the regulation.
3. Given, 'pinag-antay' sila ni Ms Monica Costales para matingnan ang grades nilang lima sa past exam, can it be used as a VALID REASON to be absent/late from Class Formation? Answer: No. That is not a legal order. Cadets must be responsible for their actions. They must not follow instructions that would cause them to violate regulations. That is how we are trained. Kung sinunod nila ang instruction ni Prof Costales, kasalanan nina Cadet Cudia yon.
4. Ngayon, nagsinungaling ba si Cadet Cudia nang ginawa nyang rason sa Delinquency Report ay "I was dismissed a little bit late by my Professor?". Answer is yes, he lied. The class was clearly DISMISSED on time. Kung di natin markahan ng LATE si Cadet Cudia, ano sasabihin noong ibang pumasok sa classroom on time? Ganon ganon na lang ba yon? Porke Deputy Brigade Commander sya? Porke running Nr 2 sya?
Kung di nyo maintindihan yan. Ewan ko na lang.
I will stand for my belief that Cadet Cudia really LIED by using 'Palusot' na syang sistema sa mga tiwaling opisyal sa bansang Pilipinas.
Again and again: Gotcha Boloy! Gotcha Cadet Cudia!
This is the article that I mentioned. Gotcha Cadet Cudia!
Deletehttp://www.rappler.com/nation/51467-cadet-cudia-appeal
In addition, retired Tatay mo as you claimed.
DeleteAsk your dear Father Retired Soldier. Meron ding concept ng Honor Code na itinuturo ng AFP sa OCS, PAFOCS, OCC at sa ROTC. Maliban pa dyan, nagbabasa at sumusunod din naman siguro sya ng Code of Ethics at Military Justice System.
Now, test him. Let him read my article and that of Rappler's.
Then ask him: Tay, quibbling (Palusot)Oba talaga ito si Cadet Cudia?
That is how you know kung ano ang level of appreciation nya sa Honor Code.
Sir,
DeleteNatadtad mo ako ng reply ah. So are you implying that the version of Cadet Bololoy is the truth and not the "palusot" that the sister of Cudia released in social media?
Allow me to comment on the questions and your personal answer
1. Na-dismiss ba on time ang klase nina Cudia? Answer is yes. Kaya nga hindi na late yong bulk ng klase di ba?
My comment: Sa nababasa ko, never namang sinabi na buong class ang pinaiwan. It was only Cudia and some others, and this is supported by the statement of the professor. So malamang nde nga mala-late yong bulk ng klase di ba?
2. Valid reason/basis ba sa pagka-excuse sa next duty (Classroom Formation) ang pagtingin-tingin ng grades? Answer: No. Personal nyang diskarte yon. Invalid. Unacceptable. Unfair to those who followed the regulation.
My Comment: This is what im trying to understand. When I first read this issue, the details said he was late from his next class bec his professor asked him to stay to discuss his grades. Then you said in your blog that it was him who choose to stay and tingnan ang grades. Now, there's the statement of the professor to support his "palusot". How about you sir, kanino nyo nakuha ang info that he stayed on his personal diskarte to check on his grades?
3. Given, 'pinag-antay' sila ni Ms Monica Costales para matingnan ang grades nilang lima sa past exam, can it be used as a VALID REASON to be absent/late from Class Formation? Answer: No. That is not a legal order. Cadets must be responsible for their actions. They must not follow instructions that would cause them to violate regulations. That is how we are trained. Kung sinunod nila ang instruction ni Prof Costales, kasalanan nina Cadet Cudia yon.
My Comment: I am with you on this sir, pwede naman nyang sabhin na may next duty pa sya and discuss na lng nila sa free time nya.
4. Ngayon, nagsinungaling ba si Cadet Cudia nang ginawa nyang rason sa Delinquency Report ay "I was dismissed a little bit late by my Professor?". Answer is yes, he lied. The class was clearly DISMISSED on time. Kung di natin markahan ng LATE si Cadet Cudia, ano sasabihin noong ibang pumasok sa classroom on time? Ganon ganon na lang ba yon? Porke Deputy Brigade Commander sya? Porke running Nr 2 sya?
My Comment:How can you say he lied when he cleary said I was dismissed, he used the word "I" meaning sya lang and not the whole class? And please elaborate sir, base on your reply, it seemed Cadet Cudia wanted to remove the late marks on him? As far as I know, he accepted the late mark and accepted the demerits and the hours of punishment. Again correct me if Im wrong, it was the heavier demerits and punishment he got compared to his mistahs that he was appealing.
Kung di nyo maintindihan yan. Ewan ko na lang.
My comment: So far we only agreed on 1 out of 4 of your question. in fact I even have more questions. I can clearly see you are inis w/ Cudia because of the side comments so I'm asking for your patience to discuss this further.
And fyi, sobrang cliche na sir ang "ang sibilyan ay nde maiintindihan ang kalakaran sa loob ng PMA". Isn't it why you have this blog? to give the side of the military and therefore educate the civilians? Why not do it without using the cliche and push your culture to us without explaining?
DeleteDon't get me wrong I'm not against PMA or military as I have claimed my father is a retired military and I have high respects to the military. so I understand even if you insist that since im a civilian then therefore I do not what code of honor/Code of Ethics/Military Justice System is. Iumaki ako sa no bullshit-no nonsense environment, but lumaki din akong nagtatanong. I just got curious with the story of Cadet Bololoy you presented as if it's the truth and not the one circulating in the media.
P.S. As much as I wanted to do your suggestion, mahihirapan ako ipabasa sa tatay ko ang blog mo at rappler article kasi I live far from him maybe on my next visit we will discuss this. To which Im sure he will say yes nagpapalusot ang *%#@#* inang Cudia na yan. :))
So, I am arrogant for talking to you in a straightforward manner na walang bola-bolahan at paliko-liko?
DeleteYou introduced yourself as a son of a retired soldier, so I am using that information for you to learn more about soldiery and our rich traditions.
I am a son of a farmer. I do respect a soldier's son. Ask any soldier from all units that I served kung meron ba akong inalipusta o binastos na mga ka-pamilya nila.
Walang 'drama' sa discussion. Direct to the point.
Kasi kapag gayahin natin si Cudia na dami pang pasa-kalye sa kanyang pagpaliwanag sa napaka-simple sanang offense na Late from Class, wala rin tayong patutunguhan.
Sorry, kung di mo type ang aking deretsahan na pakikipag-usap, you are not in the right forum.
NICE READ...
Deleteparang my point din si anonymous sir.. ;)
more Q&A pa... hehe
@ Sir Alexis Sevilla,
DeleteThank you if somehow you saw valid points to my answer to our good Lt Col questions.
I will leave this forum now since as per our good Lt Col, was not for me. Good day and God bless!
Could not be any clearer. Its pure black and white procedure. No shades of grey. Amen to this!
ReplyDeleteThank you!
DeleteSome guys repeat the same questions.
Some guys ask the questions that are already answered in the blog article and that of rappler. I already pasted the URL to the articles. Ayaw pa kasi basahin. :-)
Good Job Sir.
ReplyDeleteBefore I stumbled into your blog, I just read in between the lines what the media has been reporting. I’m glad that most of my assumptions were spot on. The broadbrushing of the institution for the sins of the few and the cynical view by some ill-informed quarters are just symptoms of a run-down house needing a renovation more than a mere facelift.
ReplyDeleteI posted a few pieces in defense of the Honor Code in some papers you probably have been alluding to when you talk of the house being raced to the ground.
But while I was glad that I gained understanding of what triggered the event the way you articulated it, I can’t help but sense a pervasive emphasis on segregation, bordering on adversarial undertones, between the public and the military establishment. The nation underwent an upheaval brought by the Marcos dictatorship when the military including the police was put on spotlight and sadly to some extent, equated with abuses. The new breed of youth did not feel the pain the regime had inflicted to the society and those who experienced it have mellowed, but for some reason it was as if the creeping threat of oblivion of the hurt and fragility did not bring the public any closer to the military. So my question to you perhaps is, what have you, the military, done about it?
Contrast that white-elephant-in-the-room relationship that you have with your more powerful counterpart in the US, the world’s greatest superpower. The Americans love their soldiers along with their fair share of ills. Why the difference? I suggest that the US military makes an effort to reduce the layers of curtains that divide them from the masses, and pulls in the people from the far sides into the center mainstream without sacrificing the distinct cultural divide. The navy regularly conducts public carrier, battleship tours, camp tours, parachuting. The public can have a taste and a deeper insight of what is life in the military. What they eat, how they live, how they pass their time, etc. They make an effort that they just simply soldiers and, very much like everybody else, except that they stand and march erect, dress smartly and have a funny way of addressing their superiors.
A lot of people, most notably Joker Arroyo, criticized the president for appointing a military to head the Human Rights Victims’ Claims Board. Most of the criticisms borders on cynicism of the military whose role in the Martial Law period could not have possibly qualified any of them to appreciate the value of human rights. Here is the president whose father was a victim and a symbol of oppression. In the words of Mr. Arroyo the appointment of a military is “a stinging repudiation of our 15 years of struggle for freedom and democracy, which culminated in the national incandescence at Edsa.”
I think there is a wisdom behind the appointment. The president’s decision to appoint a member of the military who has no participation or role in the past abuses is a clear recognition that while we recognize the suffering of the victims and the compensation they truly deserve, it is time for the nation, including the military, to heal the wounds and move on. I just hope the military makes an effort to move it closer to the people.
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Call me by my handle Pickers1368 which I used when posting at PDI and Philstar. Cheers.
Wow, nice insights Pickers1368!
DeleteI agree that we must do more to bring our AFP closer to the people. We are your soldiers. We want you to be proud of us.
I know it is very difficult to convince people that we have really initiated the gradual transformation of the AFP. It is one of the thrusts spearheaded by Gen Emmanuel "Manny Sundalo" Bautista. I am aware that his vision won't be completely realized during his incumbency. That is why, as the next line of leaders, we want to pursue these needed reforms. We want to inherit an AFP that is professional and capable to perform its Constitutional mandates.
Now, we have problems with a few stupid scalawags. We are dealing with them. We wont tolerate them. We are ashamed of these bad leaders whom we could not use as good role models. We might not be able to change them, but rest assured we will not follow them.
In closing, let me share my dream of making our AFP stronger, prouder and the true vanguard of our freedom. We could not do it alone. Pagtulungan nating lahat.
Respectfully,
Ranger C
Social media is a very powerful tool in any democratic country like the Philippines. However, more often, this new tool has been abused gravely by the users. It pains me to see how Filipino netizens easily fall into trap on some issues, and tend to sympathize more the so-called underdogs without even the benefit of critical thinking.
ReplyDeleteI have had the privilege to work directly with our Philippine military and those years were indeed memorable. The AFP is not a perfect institution, like any other institutions in the world, the AFP has some flaws. These flaws, however, are brought about by some misguided members, but to say the institution itself is flawed is a downright lie. I can really feel the discipline that is innate among its people -- whether they came from PMA or not.
Like the AFP, PMA is not exception, it may have flaws too. But once you enter in that institution, you have to subject yourself to their rules, to their norms. Many people do not understand that. PMA is not your ordinary school -- if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you cannot follow its processes, you are not all worth to be called a PMAer. Cudia's case should have not really been made public after all and secrecy is a primordial concern. Would you want this country produce kiss-and-tell military officers?
We already have a weak defense force, not because the people behind it are weak, but because we do not have the resources to make it strong. Social media is good, but it is not the right vehicle for a would-be officer and gentleman to use to air his appeal.
Good for you Matthew, you have something valuable to share.
DeleteI agree that we are not a perfect organization. We are trying our best to become better and to transform into a fully equipped, well-disciplined fighting force that you can be proud of.
Parehas lang yan sa pagpasok sa seminaryo. Bawal baga doon mag GF at magmumura. Kung ayaw mo sa ganong kalakaran, marami rin namang school sa labas at piliin na lang yong school na ang mga rules ay patok sa kaugalian mo. :-)
Sir... with all due respect.. it seems n marami kang alam nd connections. Tanong ko lang. Si Ping Lacson ba nagpapatay kay Dacer and Corbito?? Dont lie Sir..
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, sorry, wala akong phone number ni Nostradamus at Madam Auring eh. Di ko masagot yan.
DeleteCome to my office. Masarap kape ko dito. I will ask you din kung sino ba talaga pumatay kay Ferdinand Magellan? Parang duda rin ako eh. Baka si Rajah Humabon ang tunay na nagpapatay kasi na-pressure sya ng mga kaanak na pinilit nyang mag-convert sa Christianity.
Wag ka ring mag lie ha? By the way, parehas tayong Filipino citizen. Do you know the right to self-incrimination? Applicable sa ating dalawa yan. :-)
Pag may matino kang topic na pwede nating pag-usapan personally, my office is open for you 8-5pm. :-)
wahahahaahaha! langyang tanong yan..OOT..lol
Deletewag mo nalang pansinin mga yan sir... troll lang yan.. they didnt know you...
nga pala kakatapos ko lang basahin yung frontline experience mo.. walanjo.. pag uwi ko ng pinas puntahan kita sa office mo, may hihiramin lang ako sir.. please.. ;)
Welcome! Just email me or PM me sa FB. :-)
Deleteang tanong sir, andiyan pa ba sayo yun? (anting-anting) hehehe!
DeletePsssst! I will show you. No touch. You can take photos but you can't take my 'pis-pis'. :-)
DeleteAWW! hihiramin ko pa naman sana! hahaha! wala ka na rin naman sa field sir, baka pwede mo na sya ipamana sa iba.. hehe
DeleteHa-ha-ha, nice one, @Anonymous. Idaan na lang daw sa "comedy" ang sagot, LMAO.
DeleteIt's not the cadet who appealed to media his family members because they are poor and they could not accept the fact that their son will not graduate after 4 long years of hardships because of coming to class late... sana kung mayaman sila kumuha na lang sila ng lawyer... pero FB lang ang kaya nila...
ReplyDeleteMahirap o mayaman, parehas ang sinasapit kapag Honor System ang nilabag.
DeleteAn automotive writer called this "Tyranny of the Weak".
Delete1) Hindi dapat dahilan ang kahirapan para maging lenient sa mga patakaran. Hindi dahilan ang kahirapan para maging barumbado sa kasada para lang makakuha ng pasahero ang mga bus. Hindi dahilan ang kahirapan para i-tolarate and pagkakamali ng isang kadete
2) Hindi din expulsion ang parusa ng violation ng Honor Code, Cudia can still stay ... nga lang ostracized siya .... sa tining nyo, pagkakatiwalaan pa sya ng mga kapwa nya sundalo sa isang labanan? I don't think so.
Sa kasundalohan, keeping the soldiers alive is only secondary to accomplishing the mission. Soldiers give their utmost loyalty, obedience and trust in their comrades and superiors knowing that the next order will make them risk their lives, but trust that in doing so, even at the lost of their lives, their mission will be achieved.
sir ang detailed ng kuwento mo as if nandun ka nung honor committee meeting... di ba ikaw ang guilty ng breach of confidentiality?
ReplyDeleteHmmmm. Yong nag-release ng mga DRs sa media at yong minutes ng Honor Committee proceedings sa kapatid ni Cudia ang mas maraming ipaliwanag.
DeleteBreach of confidentiality? May paninindigan naman akong harapin kahit sino at tanggapin ang aking kasalanan kung meron man. Di ko gagayahin ang palusot system ni Cudia.
-from a certain Mr. Mondero (sama ako ng sampu dito)
ReplyDelete"Cudia’s explanation, if corroborated by his teacher and his classmates, should have been enough. Lying presupposes intent.
On the contrary, Cudia quoted exactly the provision of their so called Honor Code, which should have absolved him from the violation, if the teacher corroborated his explanation in its material points.
So what happened? Did the teacher deny Cudia's defense? If the teacher did, then Cudia did lie. But if the teacher corroborated, then there is now no cause of action.
I do not believe that this now infamous Honor Code is too restricted to not accept good faith and affirmative defense to the point of being violative of the laws of the Philippines. Remember that whatever rules we have, so long as these pertain to our person and our property, especially those with penal provisions, will have to conform with our laws and our Constitution.
Besides, the PMA spent no less than public funds to train these cadets only to dismiss them for some flimsy reason of semantics considered tantamount to lying. We're not playing dice here. We're dealing with people's lives and public funds.
If they can impute to Cudia malice and any wanton disregard for rules backed by clear proof and not some interpretation from co-cadets, by all means, dismiss the man. But they should dismiss all the others who were also late along with Cudia.
Lying is mala in se, not malum prohibitum. It admits good faith."
I have explained this many, many times.
ReplyDeleteOur Honor Code is different. Bawal ang palusot.
Uulitin ko sa iyo ha. Sabi ni Cudia ay kaya sya na-late dahil ang "Class daw nila ay na-dismiss a little bit late" ng kanyang Professor na si Costales.
Now, please understand this: Ang buzzer ay tumunog before 3pm. Na-dismiss ang klase at nagmartsa ang Class (Section) nila Cudia papunta sa next room para sa English Class. Hindi na-late ang kanyang mga classmates na sumunod dito.
Si Cudia at iba pang kasamahan ay nagpaiwan kasi gusto tumingin ng grade. Inutusan ba sya na magpaiwan? HINDI!
Dahil nasa kabilang kwarto ang grades na gusto nilang tingnan, sabi ni Costales, "Antayin nyo muna ako at kukunin ko para makita nyo."
Kung na-late sila sa pagpasok sa next na klase (English), hindi pwedeng rason na 'Na-dismiss ang Class ng 3pm kaya 3:02pm na kami nakarating". Sinungaling yon. Bakit hindi late yong ibang nauna? Buti yong kasamahan ni Cudia na na late din kasi umamin.
Kahit inutusan pa silang magwalis, magrelax, matulog o magtitingin ng grades, hindi yon ACCEPTABLE sa CCAFP regulations mga kapatid.
Kung di nyo maintindihan kung bakit ganon ang CCAFPR at Honor Code, eh talagang ganon eh.
Pinasok namin ang pagsundalo through PMA kaya tanggapin nyo na lang na ganon ang aming common understanding sa mga regulasyon at sistema na yon.
Promise, di ko na uulitin ang parehas na kasagutan sa inyong pabalik balik na katanungan.
@Ranger Cabunzky, dahil masalimoot na itong nangyari na hindi natin maintindihan kung si Cudia ay mali o tama, panahon na ireklamo sa isang taxpayer suit ito sa Korte Superreme Court o Regional Trial Court sa Baguio para maimbistigahan na walang milyon-milyong pesos na pera ng kaban ng bayan ang nasasayang dahil lang sa decision ng siyam na kadete sa mga na guilty at umalis ng PMA. At para matingnan kung mi indescreetion o tyranny o wala sa Honor Committee.
DeleteMagkaiba yung kay cadet cudia at kadet boloy kc sabi ng titser kla kadet boloy kung gusto nyo doon nyo tingnan sa opisina while kadet cudia the titser instructed to wait...kya hnd pwede ikumpara...
ReplyDeleteIsa lang msasabi ko sau rangercabunsky. Saludo ako sau. Walang mawawala sayo kung nagkamali ka at aamin ng pgkakamali.may punishment malamang pero you'll keep your honor and integrity. Oks ung kwen2 m n sumobra k ng 5 mins. Umamin ka n mali ka kht umistyle k n ng sagot.pero botomline umamin ka.
ReplyDeleteIntindi ko to simplify it, si cudia parang pagutot lng yan.umutot n,sinisi pa ung kamoteng kinain nya.di n lng umamin n umutot cya at di nya napigilan.
If you guys want to talk about the freaking scalawags, do so.. In ANOTHER FORUM... This blog was created to discuss the current issue with the now defunct Mr. Cudia. Let's stick to the topic..
ReplyDeleteAs previously mentioned, NOBODY is in near perfect state. If there are military people that are corrupt...They shall be exiled as well. But there is a due process of LAW. SLOW MAYBE? yeah. That is why we need to work together on this...
Now let me drink my hot coco.... Carry on...
PS... Ranger, maybe you should post all your Q/A in all dialects para maintindihan ng iba... paulit ulit na lang ang tanong eh. To the readers that just tuned in tothis blog, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU READ FROM THE TOP, NOT JUST A FEW.
-John
Remember, you don't quit running because you get old, you get old because you quit running.
Got a story for you sir Canbunzky. It's unrelated to the issue at hand. It's actually what I have experienced when I was just an applicant to join CCAFP. Please bear with me as this is a long one.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a freshman Mechanical Engineering student at UP Diliman, I learned of an upcoming PMA entrance exams from visiting PMA cadets in the campus, I applied for the privilege to take that exam. I was given instructions to show up for pre-exam formation at the quadrangle of Ramon Magsaysay High Schoool in España, Manila at exactly 6:30am.
On the day of the exam, I was showed up on time with all of the requirements in hand. After the lengthy formation, the purpose of which was supposed to arrange us in a certain sequence/grouping (what kind, I can't exactly remember now), we were all marched to our assigned exam rooms by our proctors. These "proctors" are PMA cadets themselves. There were two cadet-proctors assigned to each room.
Inside the exam room, before the exam started, we were all told to take off our shoes and socks without any explanation. Then, one by one, each of the examinees were called by name and were ordered to step out of the room.
When my name was called, I marched double-time onto the hallway, as ordered. I was told (nay, screamed at) to stand at attention with my back against a blank, cream-colored wall. One of the proctors, who seemed to be holding what appeared to be a flat piece of wood (or it could've been a 12-inch ruler, I can't remember exactly), commanded me to state my height in feet and inches. I said "five foot-four inches, sir!" That proctor then pointed the wooden thing at the wall over my head and shouted: "You are not five foot-four inches tall! Are you trying to deceive me? Get your things and run away from here as fast as you can!"
That was when I started to hesitate and began asking for clarifications from the proctor. A medical report from the UP Diliman Infirmary I have on hand then states that my height is exactly 5'4".
Before I was able to protest, the proctors got more agitated (when I stood there with probably a quizzical look on my face) and started screaming that I was worthless and not deserving to be part of the corps of cadets. One of them got my things from inside the exam room, threw all of it over the hallway baluster and into the school quadrangle 2 floors down.
What do you suppose I should have? Two people I know was with me that day, although not in the same room, and they are both of the same height as I am. I know because we had our physical exams done in the same public health clinic. They were both allowed to take the exam and passed.
Not to be deterred that easily, I tried to take the exam once more the following year. Almost exactly the same thing happened although, that time, the proctors were a bit "calmer". They handed my things to me instead of throwing it over the baluster. But the shouting, oh it was still there.
I hate to say this but that changed my appreciation of PMA cadets ever since. Question remains: What do you think I should have done to just be given the chance to take that exam?
-Jojo
Sorry to steal your thunder Jojo. The question is not directed at me but if I may, here are my .02 cents:
DeleteYou asked on what you should have done just to be given the chance to take the exam?
-Did you show the cadet proctors the documents that shows otherwise? If so, did the cadet proctor still denied you? If they did, you have a valid reason to appeal your case since your medical report confirmed your height. One way or the other, somebody has made an error and should be corrected. It's either you are shy of 5'4" and UP Diliman made a mistake and told you as such, OR, the cadet proctor made a mistake.
As for their conduct unbecoming, I would have made an issue of them treating me as such. If that really happened, they could have gotten in trouble since you are still a civilian and they shoud've never treated you as such. I am sorry to say this but that was your fault as well. You have let them berate you in public, you're taxes are paying for their education and they should not treat you as crap.
Now, let me ask you this time, you mentioned they were belligerent and threw your personal belongings away and down to the ground level?? What did you do after? I hope you didn't just shut your mouth. I would've went to their Lead and filed a complaint. I support you on this one if this happened, and if it happened and only to say this now, that's a shame.
Pareho lang yan sa rape case ni Mr. Navarro, na rape pala yung victim back in 2010 baki ngayon lang lumitaw? kasi daw maimpluwensiya si Vhong and that he is a celebrity?? I'm sure celebrity pa rin siya and may impluwnesiya pa rin siya... Makes no difference... WHY ONLY NOW? Kung palagi tayong natatakot magreklamo lalong dadami ang mga tarantado...
I'm sorry the rape case example was off topic but I can't help but say it cuz I see relevence if you didn't report that before until now...
Nevertheless, those cadet proctors should've been disciplined for conduct unbecoming if they did. Im sure there were media personnel or somone would have seen that and reported it sa well.
Lastly, I think you still beleive in the PMA system and still appreaciated the cadet in a way that is why you reapplied the following year. Otherwise, you woulnd't.
Sorry to steal the thread there Ranger....
-John
Remember, you don't quit running because you get old, you get old becasue you quit running.
@jojo
Deletesir, if your story is true. during that time, you're supposed to make a complain to their head proctor which is not a cadet but an officer of the AFP already. the conduct of those cadet proctors in your story is unbecoming. i was a proctor thrice and we were given instructions to behave accordingly and deal with the examinees with utmost respect for we represent the academy and our actions reflects the academy.
by the way, it is not the cadet proctors who has the final say about your height but the head of their team, like i said above the AFP officer. but unfortunately you did not make an official complaint. thats the sad part of the story, if it is true...
Chicken shit. That's what those proctors were, if what you just related is true. These are the rotten dung who should be scraped off the face of the earth. Chicken shit is aptly defined in the book Citizen Soldiers by Stephen Ambrose thus: "Chickenshit refers to behavior that makes military life worse than it need be: petty harassment of the weak by the strong; open scrimmage for power and authority and prestige... insistence on the letter rather than the spirit of ordinances. Chickenshit is so called -- instead of horse -- or bull -- or elephant shit -- because it is small-minded and ignoble and takes the trivial seriously. Chickenshit can be recognized instantly because it never has anything to do with winning the war."
DeleteAfter all is said and done, we must all take into mind that wars have never been won by the military academy type professional soldiers alone but by Citizen Soldiers. Since he antiquities of Emperor Cesar to World War II (the noble war) ordinary citizen soldiers have fought, bled and died and then went back to rebuild the world as civilians. So as much as I admire our PMA as an institution, I deride chicken shit acts like the one stated above.
I remember when I was in ROTC, I was made to buy fish by those tyrannical officers AFTER we were dismissed. I dropped the course, but not after I bought rotting fish which I dunked in canal water as my way of revenge. Chicken shit is to be treated as such. And in the battlefield, we frag them, those assholes.
very well said, sir! i have a sky high respect to military system particularly in discipline since i grew up with it. Greed/selfishness is the cause of Cudia's trouble. Only two things, it's either he is lying, then he's not worth a future officer, or he's not that smart enough to know duties at a simplest form, and again he's not worth a future officer....
ReplyDeleteVery well elucidated squadmate. By far the most comprehensive account on the Cudia issue that i came across with. Thanks. I'm proud of you. Keep it up!!! - chebong93
ReplyDeleteSir, what about the voting process of the honor committee? as far as the information that is available one of the member of the honor committee voted to acquit Cadet. Cudia aka Cadet Boloy can you please explain the rules if one of the member voted against the rest so meaning it 8-1 then later on they persuaded that one so it became unanimous 9-0. Can you please also enlighten me if its indeed the CURRENT PRACTICE inside the supposed to be HONOR COMMITTEE. Just my two cents sir...
ReplyDeleteIn my humble opinion, cadet Cudia violated the Honor Code as he used technical words to make "palusot" in explaining/justifying his Delinquency Report. Every cadet in the Academy was taught how to properly justify Delinquency Reports.
ReplyDeleteI was a member of PMA class 200_ ( will let you guess what year) and I ranked top 8 of my class when I violated the Honor Code. What makes me different from Cadet Cudia is I chose to resign honorably and was "forced" to live a civilian life. No regrets. I can say that I am a very successful person in my chosen field of career:-)
I understand where Cadet Cudia is coming from as I've been in his situation before. Every person has legal rights and I believe, this is what Cadet Cudia is fighting for. However, it seems that this cadet forgot the confidentiality of the issue and made it publicly sensationalized.
To those civilians like me who are in this thread, I acknowledge and respect your own point of views. I dont expect you to fully understand the rules/guidelines of the PMA as we have our own opinions. However, let us be open minded on what the issue is all about. This is not about pinpointing corrupt graduates of PMA (if you insist, then take time to know those PMAers who risked their lives while in line of duty - there are thousands of them compared to the six or seven people cited in some comments of this blog). This is about Cadet Cudia's unfortunate situation. He may fight for his rights but he should not forget that he is responsible and accountable for all his actions.
This blog is worth reading, truly an eye opener. Thank you sir rangercabunzky!
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I respect you more for manning up brother... Cheers!
-John
Remember, you don't quit running because you get old, you get old becasue you quit running.
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I respect you more for owning up your mistakes and chose to step down.... After all, we are but human. Cheers!
-John
Remember, you don't quit running because you get old, you get old because you quit running.
Madaming mga magnanakaw at mamamatay tao na napawalang sala. Bakit hindi un ang kwestiyunin? E ito malinaw ang kaso pinagppyestahan.
ReplyDeletea cadet should not lie, cheat, steal, nor act immorally against the sacred tenets of the crops. that's the honor code i got as Alamid99 of PCC, and to this day i abide by that code. what he explained in this blog is very helpful. what most people fail to realize (especially those with no military background or malingered their way out of ROTC) is that the HONOR code is very simple and very easy to follow, but it would take discipline beyond compare. the rewards of such is beyond comprehension, and most often remains silent. but if you abide by that code and internalize it, then, all other laws and rules by men seems easy to follow.
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ReplyDeleteThis! I would respect you more for owning up...
-John
Remember, you don't quit running because you get old, you get old because you quit running.